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Which season's music do you prefer?
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| Skarro 09 Jan 2003 03:47:10 |
Personally, I'm a "Both seasons equally" kind of guy, although I probably lean more towards the wonderful orchestral eminence of season 1's score. The funny thing is, listening to the music on its own, one can see why people would call it bad disco or cheezy-synth-pop, but when the music is married to those wonderful images that make up the show, it really adds an extra layer of depth to SPACE:1999. I find that the soundtracks for SPACE are head-and-shoulders above those of most other sci-fi (or even non-sci-fi) series. I find that most shows use music in a very bland way, which is to just fill in the gaps or add some background. 1999's soundtracks really work with the imagery, and help to generate that dark mood I love so much. (Geez... I'm really into the show today, aren't I?) What do others think? |
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| Validus 09 Jan 2003 04:34:52 |
I like opening to Season 2's music...it just grabs ya! Pity you can't buy all the Space 1999 music on a CD....or can you? | ||||
| Eagle One 09 Jan 2003 05:02:45 |
I hate the music to the intro in season 1 and season 2 is almost as bad. | ||||
| Validus 10 Jan 2003 00:48:29 |
Eagle One, How unkind of you to say so....sure it's not Jerry Goldsmith, but it's still better then most....  |
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| Skarro 10 Jan 2003 02:01:59 |
Validus writes:
You can actually get the music from SPACE:1999 on CD, but it might be a bit difficult. The Gerry Anderson fan club FANDERSON has put out double-CD sets of both season's music - and it has all been beautifully remastered! The people at FANDERSON really pulled out all the stops for these CD sets, taking the time to track down hard-to-find elements, previously unreleased tracks, alternate versions, etc. and then spending many a day in a recording studio digitally restoring and remastering all the tracks before putting them into double-CD sets that came packaged with a booklet full of info! I joined FANDERSON primarily because I knew that they were putting these CDs out, and that they would only be available to members. Once I got the CDs and the SPACE:1999 Documentary, I let my membership lapse, but it was worth it. Both the CD sets are great. From what I've heard, FANDERSON has now run out of the Season 1 CD, but I think that they still have the Season 2 one in stock. You can visit their website at www.fanderson.org.uk. Check out the "Fanderson Sales" area... although as I said before, you have to be a member to obtain these things, and - depending on where you live - none of it is super-cheap (although considering the quality of the releases, and the scarcity of such items, I feel it's worth it). Hope this helps! |
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| Validus 10 Jan 2003 03:34:35 |
Thanks. I went to Fanderson.com and found the Soundtrack to SPACE 1999 YEAR TWO except that they wanted like 32.00 pounds for it, which I'm guessing with shipping ends up being more then $60.00. I can't see paying that much for any CD unless of course it happens to be Dark Side of the Moon by Pink Floyd (autographed by Bob Waters). Thanks anyway.  |
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| Eagle One 10 Jan 2003 05:05:05 |
I know but the music in the intro's drive me insane. No offense intended |
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| Validus 10 Jan 2003 06:47:46 |
LMAO........no offense taken at all......  |
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| F-9000 10 Jan 2003 10:00:43 |
Hello, I am Parisian and I prefer 1st season musics, of course! I looooooooooooooooove Adagio by Albinoni in "The Dragon Domain" and rythms by Mr Barry Gray.  Then, I think Derek Wrasdworth did not understand anything in Space 1999 spirrit!  And I'm very upset against Gerry Anderson about Maya and tony additional. What did he want to show? Fred 9000 PS : someone knows how I can ad a picture under my name like Eagle One? Thank you to e-mail me soon! |
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| Cindy 10 Jan 2003 23:53:27 |
I prefere music in first season so far as F-9000 (je ne suis pas parisienne mais juste bretonne). And, I'm sorry, I don't like it in second season. In particular in "trouble spirit". |
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| JackTheFool 11 Jan 2003 17:01:36 |
I like them both pretty much equally, but I lean a little more towards Year One. Year One was more dramatic. Jack The Fool |
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| Flamegrape 11 Jan 2003 17:39:32 |
This is a curious debate. I've been thinking about it recently because of the videogame I'm creating. (Long story.) But eventually, I decided that it would be good to use music from both seasons. |
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| captphil 03 Feb 2003 04:28:14 |
I prefer Barry Gray (season one) over Derek Wadsworth (season two). But there are quite a few moments in the Wadsworth score I enjoy. Wadsworth reminds me of the Chick Corea group Return to Forever. Gray on the other hand was quite the master at taking what was on screen and elevating it through his composition. He did have 15 years or so to work on this as he started with Gerry Anderson during the early Twizzle and Torchy days. When it came to Supercar etc Gerry's advice was to take everything on screen seriously and never make the music childish, or write it down for children. So Gray had all those puppet shows to perfect his work and of course his terrific work on UFO (Soon to be released as a soundtrack by Fanderson) In fact I probably prefer Grays work on UFO or think about it as even with Space Year one. Grays work on the movie Thunderbird 6 is also wonderful IMNSHO An unsung hero is music Editor Alan Willis who chose all the library pieces, both from the previous Gray work and the other classical and experimental pieces he included in the show. Alan's choice of music in Force of Life, End of Eternity and Dragon's Domain is absolutly brilliant. Lastly there is the Ring Around the Moon score which was a collaboration of Vic Elms and Alan Willis. Vic plays the guitar in the Year One theme and sort of composed the music for Ring. I consider the score to Ring "Art by Accident" since Vic couldn't read music and Alan had to direct the orchestra. A strange collaborhation at best and it reminds of that long Beatles song (What was it) where the orchestra plays in a shapless unfocused way at the end (Can you tell I'm not a Beatles fan! Experts please step in and correct me!). I think I like the percussion and moonwalk sequences best in the Willis Elms work on Ring. Gray I think just towers over these three with Willis as the essential element to make it all come together. I think he dropped the ball in Space Brain with the use of Holst's Mars but that's just me. Hearing the music during the opening of the episode where the eagle gets crushed pulls me out of the story and back to my living room. A shame Gray was only able to write original music for 5 episode of Space. I prefer the Christopher Franke approach where a lot of new music is prepared for each new episode. You can still get the Wadsworth Year Two disks from Fanderson, the Year one is sold out but a ton of fanderson material is being bootlegged on EBAY right now, the Year One soundtrack as well as a bunch of videos. I wonder why they haven't gone after these sellers as this material is clearly a bootleg.  |
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| chadman 03 Feb 2003 12:34:20 |
I think the music for Season 1 was better overall than Season 2. In Season 1, the music helped to enhance the stories more effectively - a couple of good examples are in End Of Eternity when Balor is attacking 2 security guards, theres no words, but the scene really comes across. Its the same with the opening act from The Troubled Spirit, the guitar/sitar coupled with the opening shots of Alpha is kinda spooky and seems to really fit the story. Theres plenty of other stories where the score really works, Misson of the Darians, Testament of Arcadia, Dragon, etc. I suppose the overall feeling of the music could be classed as "brooding" and dramatic. A lot of the time, the use of classical music seemed to help emphasise the actual vastness of space and the fact that the Alphans were alone. To me, this didn't seem to be captured as much during Season 2, where the music seemed faster paced to fit the new format of the show. Sure, there is some good music in Season 2, but, at times it seemed "intrusive". I suppose its just a matter of taste or age, as a kid I preferred the music in Season 2, but that changed when Space:1999 first came out on video and I was able to re-watch Season 1 as an adult. Funny how you get a different perspective on things as you get older!! Cheers, Chad. |
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| DX-SFX 03 Feb 2003 17:38:35 |
Fanderson have gone after these bootleg sellers but eBay just don't seem to do anything. I've contacted one of the regular sellers on eBay myself and he's obviously quite aware that they are pirates (if indeed he's not actually burning them himself) and is deliberately evasive of any awkward questions to the point of telling me that "it wouldn't be in my interest to bid on it". He also lies through his teeth about it not being the Fanderson version despite the cover being an exact copy of the Fanderson item. Do these people think these tracks are just floating about out there? The Fanderson issue was the first and only release of this music (and I'm not talking about the very imcomplete RCA record) made possible by the fact that Barry Grays personal library copies were bequeathed to the club and it was the club who restored (and I do mean physically in some cases) the tapes to make them playable before they were lost forever. There is no other source they could have come from and remember the people peddling these CD's are in it for the bucks. They've seen the prices the genuine items have gone for on eBay and suddenly there's little dollar signs bouncing up and down in their eyeballs. I know some of the people involved with the restoration and preparation of the Fanderson CD and they've invested months of work in them. It really pisses me off to see any chimpanzee (for that is the level of intelligence involved) with a CD burner profiting from the work of others. We're probably all guilty of doing the odd copy of anything for a friend now and again and most people turn a blind eye to this but these people are just purely in it for your money. It also puts future CD releases in jeopardy because Carlton grant Fanderson the legal (and I emphasise legal) right to release this material only on the grounds that no more that 2000 copies are struck and only sold to club members. I'll put forward another idea to think about. How many CD's of the UFO music are there on the market at the moment (apart from one which comes from the same pirateer mentioned above)? None! Well soon Fanderson will be releasing a similar collection of UFO music and you watch how all of a sudden copies of "Japanese" and "Not Fanderson version" copies start hitting eBay. I wonder where the material for those came from? |
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| RichardWho 03 Feb 2003 18:40:50 |
I definitely preferres the Season 1 music. Mind you I've always been a big fan of Barry Grey's music. | ||||
| captphil 03 Feb 2003 23:37:42 |
Would it help for Fanderson via this forum or their own EGROUP to request when members see these auctions to notify EBAY themselves that these are bootlegs? I browse through some of the EBAY newsgroups and there are plenty of enthusiastic sellers and buyers there who have no problem reporting a bootleg auction to EBAY and then the auction gets pulled a few hours later. If a seller was hit enough times with this sort of action, it wouldn't stop them....but it would make their lives a little unpleasant, don't you think? I'm looking forward to the UFO release myself, I've seen other versions at the local Chiller Theater convention going for around 40 50 dollars. They have a Space 1999 version to but it looks different than the Fanderson release. So I can't say for sure where these came from but it looks like it's not bootleg Fanderson material. Then again, there's no way to find out unless I actually buy one, but why should I, I already own the best versions! There are a bunch of Fanderson members out there, if they want I'm sure some of us would report these auctions, no complaints at all just encourages the bootleggers. |
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| DX-SFX 04 Feb 2003 03:04:52 |
Strangely enough I've just looked for the auctions of the guy I mentioned and there's nothing currently on eBay which means either he's not selling at this exact moment in time (which I think is the case) or eBay have finally acted. I don't know, because I've not seen one in the flesh, but there is supposed to be a Japaneses version doing the rounds. Whether this is a CDR or a proper pressed item is actually irrelevent because it is still a pirate if it contains the same tracks as the Fanderson item. In fact if anyone has already bought any version other than through Fanderson I'm sure the club would like to know the details without any bad feelings towards the person who bought it. I'm sure anyone who's bought a non Fanderson disc has done so in ignorance and/or good faith so there's no problem there. It would however be nice to know the following: 1. Is the version you have pressed or a CDR? 2. What tracks are listed and how many of them? 3. What picture features on the front and rear cover and does it look like an ink jet print or commercially printed? The Fanderson item is a comprehensive booklet with details about each track and it's extremely unlikely that this will have been replicated by a casual rip off. This way it would be easy to identify which version is which and hopefully where they are coming from. There is one version out there which is a CDR version of the old RCA album which although technically still a pirate is not quite so much of a concern. If anyone wants to email me privately if need be I'd be more than happy to pass any details on. I would not encourage anyone to complain to eBay unless they personally had misgivings about an item. As suggested it might be far more advantageous to email the seller and ask some awkward questions as the answers (if any) would probably say more about the item than anything else. |
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| DX-SFX 07 Feb 2003 11:59:48 |
I see our friend has pirate copies of season one and season two on eBay again. Even the covers he used are copies of the Fanderson item. Season one is no longer available from Fanderson so that's one thing but season two still is so in my books that makes it thieving. I've heard that Carlton are now taking an interest so perhaps this individuals days on eBay are numbered. | ||||
| Moonbase99 08 Feb 2003 16:57:11 |
I LIke the music to both seasons equally. I think they both suit the material they were written for extremely well, and are also very listenable alone. |
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