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Columbia has just explosed!
Watch CNN, it's terrible!
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| F-9000 01 Feb 2003 16:23:32 |
 Hi Friends! Have you watched the news? Your space shuttle Columbia has explosed in your american sky! Seven astronauts have died! It's a terrible tragedy! I was 9 when Challenger crashed into the skies! God bless your heroes! F-9000  |
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| Senmut 31 Jul 2003 03:14:50 |
As usual, the suits at NASA lied, lied, lied. Sounds like the world Koenig was stuck with,, doesn't it? | ||||
| moonbasealpha_s1 31 Jul 2003 03:34:28 |
That's why Breakaway is such a wonderful episode. It has the political and social nonsense down to a tee. Sort of makes you wonder if the Alphans were better off leaving Earth.. | ||||
| Dada Baggins 29 Aug 2003 07:32:07 |
Yeah, it is terrible.... I am replying 7 months after the tragedy....it was all fault of the "great organization" NASA. Some tiles of the Shuttle Columbia taked off from it before the launch, causing damage to the Shuttle...there was the possibility to organize a rescue mission to save the astronauts, but...they haven't organized it. Read well this... THERE WAS THE WAY TO AVOID THE TRAGEDY. Please, "see beyond" and tell me what you think about this...news. Bye, Dada Baggins |
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| captphil 29 Aug 2003 17:21:58 |
http://glennhauman.malibulist.com/gmlog/00000082.html |
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| Dada Baggins 31 Aug 2003 14:55:30 |
Thank you, Captphil... That webpage made me know and understand that the terrible disaster of the Columbia was very very very important for all the people of the world, especially for Americans. The Columbia Shuttle made, more or less, on mission a month. Every time that a mission finished, was "restructured". It was?  Bye, Dada Baggins |
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| Senmut 05 Sep 2003 06:57:05 |
Right on, Dada. It WAS avaiodable. Is there a Simmonds in NASA somewhere. | ||||
| Otis 10 Sep 2003 14:27:28 |
Captphil, I have been impressed by the page. Senmut, You're so funny with your always coming back Simmonds obsession.  Oddly, a very "complot theory" question : if I'm not wrong, the first shuttle to have exploded was supposed to bring on space a significant tool of observation of the limits of universe. Hubble was the name. It was meant to be able to see the fossil remainders of creation itself ! In the years after, Hubble suffered of an incredible serie of troubles, making it unable to achieve its mission. Still nowaday I don't remember having been taugh with any waowishy sort of revelation came from there. Then ???? Who wanted more info about creation been shut ???? Paranocally yours  |
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| ultra 10 Sep 2003 18:02:29 |
Sorry, but this is wrong. The first shuttle lost was Challenger, which carried a TDRS satellite and a SPARTAN observatory. The TDRS was to be the second of a family of NASA satellites used to maintain 24/7 communications with NASA and commercial satellites. For everything you might want to know, check out: TDRS Homepage Since the loss of TDRS-2 back in 1986, 8 more TDRS satellites have been launched. It is currently a 9 satellite system, vibrant and vital to NASA operations and to users around the world. The SPARTAN was a small observatory that is used for about 48 hours during a Shuttle mission. It was to have performed observations of Halley's comet.
wow! This could not be further from the truth! The Hubble telescope was launched in April, 1990. Initially, only poor pictures could be obtained since the primary mirror did not focus the image properly. But, in December, 1993, the first servicing mission by the Space Shuttle was performed. The astronauts replaced several opitical systems, which resulted in the telescope providing crystal clear images ever since. Over the last 10 years there have been thousands of photos taken and numerous discoveries! Go here to see some of the fantastic pictues. The latest are some truly beautiful ones of Saturn! Hubble Telescope |
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| ultra 10 Sep 2003 18:10:30 |
The Space Shuttle Program averages about a flight about every 2 months. However, there were 4 shuttles in the fleet, with one typically being extensively checked out and refurbished for up to 8 months of the year. The other shuttles would cycle through the launch plan, so that they each could take a turn, and each individual Shuttle therefore had about 4-5 months between launches. That is a somewhat simplified version of what really happens, as there is a lot more that goes into the Flight Design process. |
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| F-9000 10 Sep 2003 19:21:09 |
 I wonder when Americans go back to space?Columbia disappeared 7 months ago and so, only Russians launch rockets!  Not very good for NASA! I'm sure Eagles would have been better machines! F-9000 |
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| Otis 10 Sep 2003 19:25:10 |
Thank you Ultra for caring to enlight my ignorance. Where did I find my remembrances ? |
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| Otis 10 Sep 2003 19:59:33 |
Ok, I checked a bit : it was not the very shuttle exploded which was carrying hubble, but the destruction of it delated the hubble program. Does it make sense ? | ||||
| captphil 10 Sep 2003 23:09:50 |
Yes, and that may have lead to the problems with the Hubble Optics (I THINK, I'm remembering some Discovery documentary on Hubble and I may have mixed up the facts) The mission to repair the optics on Hubble was one of the greatest repair jobs ever in space and some say saved the US Space program. As to when the USA will go back into space....we are launching unmanned missions still, which in many cases, have gotten some spactacular results. A shame, (IMO) we didn't go into Space the way it was depicted in the 1950's, establishing a Space Station first in orbit, moving onto the moon and eventually the planets (Nicely...but sort of out of date, depicted in the movie Conquest of Space) But I believe humanity (Not Americans, or Russians or Japanese or Chinese or French or whoever) will establish a presence in space and eventually shape the solar system to humanities needs. I just don't believe I will be around to see it. If I'm lucky I'll see people going to Mars but I'm starting to run out of time. Then again, I remember getting up very early one morning in the 1970s to watch one of the Voyager probes launch. I was either in 7th or 8th grade. In 1989 I stayed up late to watch the footage of Neptune from that probe. An amazing event that I did get to see in my lifetime!  So I guess I am sort of lucky as I am part of the first generation of humans who know what the outer solar systems planets really look like. And it's greater than anything we had ever imagined!  |
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| ultra 11 Sep 2003 16:23:45 |
NASA is not planning to launch the Shuttle again until March 2004, at the earliest. It will most likely be several months later than that.
True, NASA has not lauched any people into space since Columbia, but there are still many launches occuring all around the world, almost 1 per week! Since then, NASA has launced 3 major missions, and don't forget, the International Space Station is still manned and running 24 hours a day! Since Columbia, there has been only one manned mission to space, which was via a Russian launch vehicle. But also, since Columbia, there have been 30 launches into space - by 5 different countries! The US has launched 16 times since February 2, and from the land, the sea and the air. 10 launches have been communications or military satellites, but the other 6 were for science. Including the 3 major NASA missions - Mars Explorer "Spirit", Mars Explorer "Opportunity" and the Space Infrared Telescope Facility (SIRTF). Russia has launched 9 times. 4 of those lauches were to Space Station and 1 was for the European Mars "Express" and "Beagle". Europe has launched 3 times for communication satellites Japan has launched a satellite China has launched a satellite And Brazil was about to attempt a launch, when the rocket unfortunately exploded on the pad. So the whole world has been a busy place for launching rockets. And NASA is still sending up missions (Gravity Probe B launches in November!), but just not people. |
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| Otis 15 Sep 2003 21:04:28 |
Dear knowledgeable Ultra, did you hear about a Climate Orbiter, which, on the 22/9/99, is supposed to have crashed on Mars after mixing-up mtres with miles ? |
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| ultra 16 Sep 2003 21:21:37 |
close, but not quite right. There were 2 US missions to Mars in 1999, and unfortunately, both failed. The Mars Climate Orbiter was never captured into orbit and flew past Mars, because of the mix-up between English/Metric units. The Mars Polar Lander is the one that crashed on the surface Mars, because the onboard software shut the engines off too soon (not because of english/metric though). Mars has been a tough place for everyone to get their probes to - Russia has also lost quite a few missions. Hopefully, all three of the current Mars missions will reach Mars successfully  |
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| Otis 17 Sep 2003 13:45:12 |
Thank you. Where do you get all those informations ? I heard about Climate Orbiter on a french site about science and confusion. They were desesperate that even scientists can mess up so much. What's the problem with the metric system ? I know I may look like preaching for my own chapel since I've ben bathing in the metric system since I was born, but frankly, is it not simply the best ? For science at least ? It's simple, universal, logical... I hope no one human life will ever been taken by such confusion. |
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