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Date: Thu, 10 Apr 1997 02:07:43 GMT
From: "Gregory L. Wilcox" <greggw@infinet.com>
Subject: Space1999: OT Spelling Checker Humor
=46ound this, it is so true......
Spelling Checker
I have a spelling checker.=20
It came with my PC.=20
It plainly marks four my revue=20
Mistakes eye cannot sea.=20
I've run this paper threw it=20
I'm sure your please too no.=20
The spelling's perfect, in its weigh=20
My checker tolled me sew.
See, told ewe.
Gregg Wilcox
Brown Sleeve #159
AWET (Alpha Water Equipment Technician)
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Date: Wed, 9 Apr 1997 21:22:23 -0500
From: MIKE GRYGO <GROG@erie.net>
Subject: Re: Space1999: YEAR 2 sleep inducing
Agreed; if you edit out the orange helmet speech you'd have
a great episode. What I've done with some of the second
year episodes, especially the more ridiculous ones, is
edit them down, directly from laserdisc, into bit-size
episodes filled with special effects action and corny, dated,
sexist one-liners from Alan and Tony. This way I can
watch Year 2 at a pace that makes me laugh instead of
squirm. I've already filled up one two-hour tape with
5 or more episodes, edited down to a snappy average of
15-20 minutes. I use a JVC VHS deck with a flying
erase head so the cuts are clean; no rainbows!
grog@erie.net
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Date: Thu, 10 Apr 97 03:17:58 UT
From: Susan Lienesch <SUZLEN@msn.com>
Subject: Space1999: Re: Marshall Poindexter-S1999 Character Inspiration
For me, Victor Bergman's luminous joy of science and the unknown has always
been inspirational to me. Barry Morse's infectious grin and his portrayal of
Victor as both human and humane (I'll never understand why the S1999 books
always talked about Victor lacking emotion because of his "mechanical heart")
are big reasons why I am a huge Year 1 fan. The last half of "The Black Sun"
had some real defining moments not only for Victor, but for the show itself.
I never want to lose that childlike sense of wonder and adventure.
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Date: Wed, 09 Apr 1997 22:44:17 EDT
From: djlerda@juno.com (David J Lerda)
Subject: Re: Space1999: YEAR 2 sleep inducing
On Wed, 9 Apr 1997 19:39:24 -0500 MIKE GRYGO <GROG@erie.net> writes:
>My son Stephen, now 5, finds SPACE:1999 very boring.
>My other boy, Kyle, reacts the same way Stephen did
>when he was 18 months old; he zonks right out.
>So you see, I've seen alot of Year 2 episodes lately.
>How about that long speech by the whispering alien
>with the orange, translucent plastic eggplant helmet
>in SPACE WARP? Did Fred Friedhamdinger write
>this gem?
>
>grog@erie.net
Yes, he did under the nomme-de-barf Charles Woodgrove. He also wrote THE
BETA CLOUD under the same pseudonym. Couldn't you tell? They're the
same episode.
David
Pilot, Pursuit Eagle 5, # 171
David J Lerda
Salisbury, MD, USA
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Date: Wed, 2 Jun 1999 22:43:17 -0700
From: Terry Lee <TerryL@asymetrix.com>
Subject: Space1999: FW: Mexican Lobby Cards For Destination Moonbase Alpha
This bounced the first time I sent it.
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Terry Lee
> Sent: Tuesday, June 01, 1999 8:08 AM
> To: 'Space:1999 Mailing List (submit)'
> Subject: Mexican Lobby Cards For Destination Moonbase Alpha
>
> Hi,
>
> I just picked up 8 lobby cards for Destination Moonbase Alpha (Destino
> Base Nuclear Alfa) and was wondering if anybody knew how many lobby cards
> were put out for Destination Moonbase Alpha in Mexico?
>
> Also, I have the English lobby cards for DMA as well. Does anybody know if
> lobby cards exists in other languages besides the 2 that I have?
>
> Thanks
>
> Terry
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Date: Thu, 3 Jun 1999 10:18:55 -0700 (PDT)
From: powysbooks@webtv.net
Subject: Space1999: test delete
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Date: Thu, 3 Jun 1999 13:36:43 -0500
From: bjscannell@sprynet.com
Subject: Space1999: Web Page Update
Hello All,
I just wanted to let those that might be interested know I've
updated my page with some new content. Its a new sub page
*The Passanger Module*.
Waiting for the Convention,
Barry
White Left Sleve #143 barry@space1999.com
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Barry's Eagle Modeling Page, "Main Motors"
http://home.sprynet.com/sprynet/bjscannell/
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Date: Thu, 3 Jun 1999 16:09:59 EDT
From: NicStepro@aol.com
Subject: Re: Space1999: FW: Mexican Lobby Cards For Destination Moonbase Alpha
What the heck?
I taint subbed from this addy. How come I am getting mail?
nicolette
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Date: Fri, 4 Jun 1999 08:54:34 0
From: "Avril Hardy" <avril.hardy@controls.eurotherm.co.uk>
Subject: Re: Space1999: FW: Mexican Lobby Cards For Destination Moonbase Alpha
Yup, me too, and now all of a sudden I've been resubbed???!!!. What's going on?
Avril
> What the heck?
>
> I taint subbed from this addy. How come I am getting mail?
>
> nicolette
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Date: Fri, 04 Jun 1999 10:45:08 EDT
From: Anthony J Ritz <aritz1622@juno.com>
Subject: Re: Space1999: FW: Mexican Lobby Cards For Destination Moonbase Alpha
>Yup, me too, and now all of a sudden I've been resubbed???!!!. What's
going on?
This should be the Twilight Zone list. It's been a year since I've been
on,
no I'm back suddenly, without subscribing?????
Maybe a forced reunion for old list members to celebrate the year
1999????
While I'm at it:
Hi Robert, Marcy, Mark, John, and everyone else I haven't
spoken to in far too long.
Do Take Care
Tony ----
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Date: Fri, 4 Jun 1999 09:24:45 -0700
From: James Smith <jsmith@ncube.com>
Subject: Space1999: Roberto's Eagle Poster
Alphans,
I just received my color cutaway Eagle Poster that Roberto Baldassari
created. It's fantastic! It really is a must-have item. The detail and
quality of the illustration work are first-rate. The quality matches or
surpasses the various Star Trek cutaway posters that are out there.
Don't hesitate to order the poster from Roberto. If you're from the US
(like me) sending cash for your order works just fine.
Regards,
James Smith
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Date: Fri, 04 Jun 1999 11:26:30 -0500
From: David Welle <dwelle@itol.com>
Subject: Space1999: admin test -- please ignore
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Date: Fri, 4 Jun 1999 13:54:21 -0700 (PDT)
From: Marcy K <mk@wizard.com>
Subject: Space1999: ADMIN: List Technical Problem
Hi Alphans-
Here is an admin message penned by David. Unfortunately his subscription
was also affected by the current list problem, so I'm forwarding this on.
Luckily, David saves a record of list admin moves, something that I don't
do, so we should be able to mostly reconstruct the mailing lists.
Marcy
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Date: Fri, 4 Jun 1999 04:53:46 -0400 (EDT)
From: owner-space1999@buffnet4.buffnet.net
To: owner-space1999@buffnet4.buffnet.net
Subject: BOUNCE space1999@buffnet4.buffnet.net: Non-member submission from
[David Welle <dwelle@itol.com>]
X-Sender: dwelle@itol.com
X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.1 (16)
Date: Thu, 03 Jun 1999 22:56:50 -0500
To: space1999@buffnet4.buffnet.net
From: David Welle <dwelle@itol.com>
Subject: Major List Host Problems [ADMIN]
Mime-Version: 1.0
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Alphans,
Whew, we have a few list hardware problems, and some other issues. Two
things...:
First, I was gone for over two weeks, and have since had no time to spend
on the list, so there are three weeks of non-member notes, misaddressed
notes, administrative requests, and other such mail that may need responses
or forwarding. I will try to catch up with these over the weekend.
Second, however, a more major problem just arose at BuffNet itself. This
is part of a note from BuffNet's Chief Network Engineer:
>We had a bad tape drive on the mailing list server. After replacing it,
>the main hard drive on that box died (it was a very bad day yesterday) -
>we replaced it and restored from tape, only to discover that the tape unit
>had been bad for longer than we thought producing bad backup tapes, while
>not reporting any errors. The system has been restored, but the data is a
>few months old - we had to resort to older archived tapes.
>
>[....]
>
>I apologize for the problems this has caused
Unfortunately, this dual problem means the last good address lists they
have are several months old. The consequence of this is that some of you
who unsubscribed during that period are now back on the list and are
receiving Space: 1999 messages again, and there are also a number of people
who subscribed during that period that are off the list now (the latter
group will have to be informed once repairs are made and they are back on
the list).
I am working on gathering information that I had on my hard drive to try to
build a more current set of address lists for BuffNet to use, which will
hopefully get the list back to how it was two days ago.
This affects dozens of people on all three 1999-related lists, so please
hold off questions relating to subscription problems until after my next
update. If fellow list members send you any complaints directly, please
forward this note or pass on this information.
Thanks for your patience,
- ----
David Welle
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Date: Fri, 4 Jun 1999 14:04:44 pst
From: "Keith Marshall"<keith.marshall@foxinternet.net>
Subject: Re: Space1999: ADMIN: List Technical Problem
>Alphans,
>
>Whew, we have a few list hardware problems, and some other issues. Two
>things...:
>
>
>David Welle
All I can say is thank god we are not on the moon sockpiling nuclar waist. if
you know what I mean ;)
Good luck on the update Dave.
Keith Marshall
keith.marshall@foxinternet.net
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Emergency Plus Four
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Date: Fri, 4 Jun 1999 18:18:50 EDT
From: Sciffynic@aol.com
Subject: The Proetectors Re: Space1999: Re: Anholt
Speaking of which, any idea of what episodes he
appears in ? So far not the first three...
In a message dated 6/1/99 22:02:22, gwr@easynet.co.uk writes:
<<voice-over agency *didn't* include S:1999, although it did feature The
Protectors. >>
nicolette
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Date: Fri, 4 Jun 1999 22:37:30 +0100
From: "Ariana" <ariana@ndirect.co.uk>
Subject: Space1999: The new black
Here's something that got lost when the list died:
Just something that came to mind this week...
The Eurovision Song Contest (known as Grand Prix in some countries) was on
last week-end, broadcast live from Jerusalem. Our British commentator was
Terry Wogan, as usual and he told us at the beginning of the show that the
costumes that night were going to prove that "gray is the new black". And
indeed, a lot of the contestants were dressed in gray or silver garments.
The other day, I watched Bringers of Wonder, which I had recorded last
Saturday afternoon. Here's an exerpt from the script which made me laugh:
SANDRA: "What about fashions? What's everybody wearing?"
DIANA: "Well, there is a lot of silver about..."
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Date: Fri, 4 Jun 1999 18:37:52 EDT
From: Sciffynic@aol.com
Subject: Re: Space1999: ADMIN: List Technical Problem
Does this mean I should unsub from the list from my old addy?
I do not think the I saw my message from the other addy over here at all.
I am getting messages over there that are not over here.
Dual lists?
nicolette
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Date: Fri, 4 Jun 1999 16:45:51 -0700
From: Terry Lee <TerryL@asymetrix.com>
Subject: RE: Space1999: ADMIN: List Technical Problem
I guess we should be lucky this computer problem didn't accidentally set off
the Nuclear disposal waste areas on the dark side of the moon! Who knows
what that could have done!
Terry
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Date: Fri, 04 Jun 1999 18:15:45 -0500
From: David Welle <dwelle@itol.com>
Subject: Space1999: Technical Problems Solved [ADMIN]
Alphans,
The list should (hopefully) be back to normal now.
There was a dual failure at BuffNet (hard drive failed, and backup tapes
proved to be faulty), so months-old subscriber lists (temporarily) had to
be used to get the lists running again. Unfortunately, those who had
unsubscribed in the past few months were temporarily back on, and new
subscribers were temporarily off-list. Turns out I wasn't even on this old
list, and didn't even realize it until Marcy forwarded my note! (Thanks,
Marcy)
I rebuilt more current lists of subscriber addresses and sent them to
BuffNet, which they have now gotten on the system, meaning subscription
status should be as it was on 06/01; but because I had to integrate a bunch
of separate (un)subscription notices to create a more up-to-date address
list, I am not 100% sure it is exactly correct. Please contact me if you
have any questions about your subscription status, or if someone else asks
about theirs.
Thanks for your patience,
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Date: Fri, 4 Jun 1999 22:43:38 EDT
From: TERALISHA@aol.com
Subject: Space1999: RE: If the list is fixed..
Hi,
If the list is now functional again, everyone have a GREAT weekend!
Night
T
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Date: Fri, 04 Jun 1999 21:44:35 -0500
From: David Welle <dwelle@itol.com>
Subject: Space1999: Speed [FWD]
Well, there was a lot of trapped mail (besided the *hundreds* of error
messages!) from the last two days, since the software had inaccurate
information about who was subscribed. Most messages were about the
problems, so I won't forward those now. This one (and maybe a few more to
come) wasn't, so....
>From: Janet Sever <jesever@sprynet.com>
>To: Space 1999 <space1999@buffnet.net>
>Subject: Speed
>Date: Thu, 3 Jun 1999 16:23:27 -0500
>
>Ok, so how fast is the moon really traveling??? I just got my CH tape of
>End of Eternity and Space Warp (another helmet blooper in Space Warp), and
>in EOE, Paul says that the asteroid is 3 light years from the nearest
>system, and at that speed, it would have taken 1000 years to get to its
>present position.
>
>I think we can infer that the moon is going roughly at the same speed as
>the asteroid (if the moon is going that much faster, then they would have
>shot by the asteroid rather quickly... or was the asteroid pulled into
>orbit around them??? Hmmm) If they are going that slow, they'd never get
>anywhere. Any mathematicians who can figure out the speed of the moon,
>assuming it could be going roughly the same speed as that asteroid?
>
>Janet
>
>
>
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Date: Sat, 05 Jun 1999 18:38:11
From: Straker.@taranaki.ac.nz
Subject: Re: Space1999: Speed [FWD]
>>Ok, so how fast is the moon really traveling??? I just got my CH tape of
>>End of Eternity and Space Warp (another helmet blooper in Space Warp), and
>>in EOE, Paul says that the asteroid is 3 light years from the nearest
>>system, and at that speed, it would have taken 1000 years to get to its
>>present position.
>>
>>I think we can infer that the moon is going roughly at the same speed as
>>the asteroid (if the moon is going that much faster, then they would have
>>shot by the asteroid rather quickly... or was the asteroid pulled into
>>orbit around them??? Hmmm) If they are going that slow, they'd never get
>>anywhere. Any mathematicians who can figure out the speed of the moon,
>>assuming it could be going roughly the same speed as that asteroid?
Any discussion of the Moon's velocity is academic, really, as the entire
premise of the show tends to negate any concrete estimate. Here we have
the Moon, travelling through the Universe, arriving at a new star system
once every fortnight (if the dating system is at all reliable). Clearly,
the Moon must exceed the speed of light on a regular basis. However,
Another Time Another Place has the Alphans amazed that they've exceeded the
light barrier. So, if the Moon isn't going at FTL speed, how does it reach
stars systems light-years apart so fast? And if it IS, how can the Eagles
catch up with it when they visit planets?
The way that I reason it is that the Moon accelerates as it gets furher
from a star system, and slows down as it approaches one. Midway between
systems, the velocity must reach a point where the Moon enters
hyperspace....and it emerges again when solar wind pressure(?) decelerates
it to 'approach speed'. So, while it's not going at FTL speed, the
distance between systems is no longer the standard one. Some sort of
space-folding may be in play here, though that idea raises more problems
than it solves. This variable-speed theory is only really tenable if you
accept that the infamous MUF has made sure this happens.
JeffStoat
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Date: Sat, 5 Jun 1999 01:01:48 -0500
From: Jeff Doyle <jeffd@tranquility.net>
Subject: Space1999: Black Sun has arrived!!
Greetings Alphans,
Well, here it is, after I returned from work, I found the latest and last
CH tape sitting in my mailbox. I haven't seen this classic ep in uncut
form in more than 20 years. I do have a grainy, edited, extra-long play
Sci-Fi 45 minute version, but I haven't even watched that in a couple of
years intentionally (although sometimes the temptation was very nearly
overwelming) so that this (tonite's) veiwing could be as mind-blowing as
possible. So, with all lights out, curtains drawn, stereo system at full
blast and myself sitting five feet from a 27" TV, with a Heiniken in one
hand and a remote in the other, I will have the closest thing to a
religious experience that SPACE: 1999 can offer.
A pity they don't have WAR GAMES or IMMUNITY SYNDROME at CH. Who the heck
decided on the episodes they put out?
- -Jeff
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Date: Sat, 5 Jun 1999 01:16:10 -0500
From: Jeff Doyle <jeffd@tranquility.net>
Subject: Re: Space1999: Speed [FWD]
>> Any mathematicians who can figure out the speed of the moon,
>>assuming it could be going roughly the same speed as that asteroid?
>
Jeff S. wrote:
> Any discussion of the Moon's velocity is academic, really, as the entire
> premise of the show tends to negate any concrete estimate. Here we have
> the Moon, travelling through the Universe, arriving at a new star system
> once every fortnight (if the dating system is at all reliable). Clearly,
> the Moon must exceed the speed of light on a regular basis. However,
> Another Time Another Place has the Alphans amazed that they've exceeded >
the light barrier. So, if the Moon isn't going at FTL speed, how does it
reach
> stars systems light-years apart so fast? And if it IS, how can the Eagles
> catch up with it when they visit planets?
> The way that I reason it is that the Moon accelerates as it gets furher
> from a star system, and slows down as it approaches one. Midway between
> systems, the velocity must reach a point where the Moon enters
> hyperspace....and it emerges again when solar wind pressure(?)
decelerates
> it to 'approach speed'. So, while it's not going at FTL speed, the
> distance between systems is no longer the standard one. Some sort of
> space-folding may be in play here, though that idea raises more problems
> than it solves. This variable-speed theory is only really tenable if you
> accept that the infamous MUF has made sure this happens.
> JeffStoat
It could be that passing through the "Black Sun" moved the Moon near the
center of our galaxy where stars are packed much more closely together. Of
course if we are to take THE TAYBOR as canon, then the Moon is not even in
the Milky Way anymore.
- -Jeff
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Date: Sat, 5 Jun 1999 01:05:42 -0600 (CST)
From: TIMOTHY GUEGUEN <ad058@sfn.saskatoon.sk.ca>
Subject: Re: Space1999: Speed [FWD]
On Sat, 5 Jun 1999, Jeff Doyle wrote:
> It could be that passing through the "Black Sun" moved the Moon near the
> center of our galaxy where stars are packed much more closely together. Of
> course if we are to take THE TAYBOR as canon, then the Moon is not even in
> the Milky Way anymore.
As I understand it the background radiation level near the center of the
galaxy is considerably higher than out here on the rim, making it a rather
hostile place for human life. I remember someone years ago claiming that
life near the galactic center would be like "potroasts on rollerskates."
tim gueguen 101867
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Date: Sat, 05 Jun 1999 07:30:15 -0500
From: David Welle <dwelle@itol.com>
Subject: Space1999: Re: Anholt [FWD]
>Date: Thu, 03 Jun 1999 19:58:31 +0200
>From: Elena Romanello <lucabero@tin.it>
>Subject: Re: Space1999: Re: Anholt
>
>> No, he really did want to distance himself from S:1999 and preferred not to
>> talk about it if possible. He also had a problem with the more, shall we
>> say, "enthusiastic" fans he'd met in his time; he genuinely did not
>> understand why "grown adults" would want to collect S:1999 toys or dress up
>> in costume. He said all this when I met him, not long before he vanished
>> out of the door!
>
>No, what a delusion!!!!!!!!!!! My childhood love!!!!!! In Italy there is
>an
>unkind word to define people who think like him: "stronzi". I'm used to
>tell
>this word to these people.
>
>>
>>
>> His view was that it was just something he did for the regular paycheck.
>> I'd noted, before I hired him, that the career resume provided by the
>> voice-over agency *didn't* include S:1999, although it did feature The
>> Protectors.
>
>Well, che stronzo!!!!
>Excuse me for the bad words!
>Elena
>
>>
>>
>
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Date: Sat, 05 Jun 1999 07:35:30 -0500
From: David Welle <dwelle@itol.com>
Subject: Space1999: Laserdisc + Helena in burning eagle? [FWD]
>From: Jeff Doyle <jeffd@tranquility.net>
>Subject: Laserdisc + Helena in burning eagle?
>Date: Thu, 3 Jun 1999 00:24:27 -0500
>
>Hi fellow 1999 folks,
>
>I am considering getting a laserdisc player to watch 1999 and Trek on.
>Does anyone have experience with Star Trek TOS laserdiscs? Were they
>mastered to higher standards than are the tapes, and how do they compare to
>the Sci-Fi special edition in picture/sound quality?
>
>Oh yes, while looking around the net for more 1999 stuff, I came across a
>picture of our brave commander pulling Helena out of the Eagle co-pilot
>seat, while fire raged around them. Could this be a promotional picture?
>It must be since I can't remember an episode where this happens. The
>uniforms were second season style. This is odd, because it would seem
>that this would be too expensive a shoot for just promo shots.
>
>-Jeff
>
>
>
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Date: Sat, 05 Jun 1999 07:37:49 -0500
From: David Welle <dwelle@itol.com>
Subject: Space1999: New Books [FWD]
>From: South Central <Tamazunchale@webtv.net>
>Date: Wed, 2 Jun 1999 22:30:39 -0700 (PDT)
>Subject: New Books
>
>Dear List,
>
>I have set up a small publishing company (just a few last minute fees to
>be paid and we're off). We will be publishing fiction and non-fiction.
>
>Our long-term goal is to publish original Space: 1999 novels as well.
>To do this we need to secure a licensing agreement. Any help with this
>would be greatly appreciated.
>
>We plan to approach Fanderson for assistance with the next few weeks.
>We hope they will be able to guide us to the right people.
>
>I have partially completed the book series bible for prospective new
>authors for 1999 books. Hopefully, we can obtain the licensing
>agreement and so produce limited edition novels. If we as fans don't
>keep the show alive, who will?
>
>This is just a little update to let you know I didn't abandon this
>project. Our company has its own business website and you will soon be
>able to buy books (no, not Space: 1999 books :-( ) from us just like you
>can from Amazon complete with encryption and security!
>
>Our first novel is entitled, Mary's Monster. We hope some of you may be
>interested in reading it!
>
>As soon as everything is ready, I will send the list a link to our
>website--I promise a surprise for all of you!
>
>Mateo
>
>Going to Breakaway? Find out who else is going on my
>
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Date: Sat, 5 Jun 1999 09:32:48 -0400
From: Todd Pence <toddpence@pipeline.com>
Subject: Re: Space1999: Black Sun has arrived!!
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From: Jeff Doyle <jeffd@tranquility.net>
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Date: Saturday, June 05, 1999 2:06 AM
Subject: Space1999: Black Sun has arrived!!
>
>A pity they don't have WAR GAMES or IMMUNITY SYNDROME at CH.
Or ANOTHER TIME, ANOTHER PLACE.
Todd M. Pence
Fairfax, VA
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Date: Sat, 05 Jun 1999 07:45:02 -0500
From: David Welle <dwelle@itol.com>
Subject: Space1999: Re: mpegs [FWD]
>From: moonbubba@webtv.net (moon bubba)
>Date: Wed, 2 Jun 1999 05:53:07 -0400 (EDT)
>Subject: Re: mpegs
>
>I was wondering who did the great mpegs of the eagle lift off? They were
>pretty cool. I'd also like to know what happened to them? I tried to
>check them out last night and couldnt. I was also wondering if someone
>could maybe make more mpegs and put them up somewhere. Like scenes from
>various episodes and what have ya. I would if I could. I guess I'll have
>to get a computer so I can play Human Decision Required too. Is someone
>working on a new game? I wish somebody would make a game that could be
>played on WebTV. Well,I think I've rambled on enough for awhile.Maybe we
>can talk about some of the things I've mentioned instead of Star Wars?
>Please? I'll be watching my mailbox,waiting for the next digest! Hope
>everyone has a nice day. Take care, people...
>
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Date: Sat, 05 Jun 1999 07:45:51 -0500
From: David Welle <dwelle@itol.com>
Subject: Space1999: Space:1999 [FWD]
>From: moonbubba@webtv.net (moon bubba)
>Date: Wed, 2 Jun 1999 05:35:11 -0400 (EDT)
>Subject: Space:1999
>
>I'm in a talkative mood,so here's yet another post from yours truely...I
>was wondering if there were any movie producers subscribed to the list?
>Or does anyone know how much it would cost to produce either a movie or
>another series or mini-series of Space:1999. Maybe the series could be
>called Destination: Moonbase Alpha. Kinda like Space:1999: The Next
>Generation or something. It could all be CGI for all I care,I just wish
>there were more episodes! It could all be computer animation and just
>get the actors to do the voices. Or get a new cast set a hundred years
>later and they get another call from Texas City.Does anyone know if
>Gerry Anderson would be interested in doing this? He's gotta have tons
>of money. I'd be willing to chip in if it would help. Or start a
>fundraiser. What if all the proceeds from say the CD were put into
>another production? I'd buy ten of them. What if we all wrote to New
>Line Cinema or Ted Turner or somebody and bugged them about making this
>happen? Just a few ideas,maybe someone else will want to kick these
>ideas around for awhile. We might actually come up with something. I
>know theres been a few posts in the past about people wanting more
>Space. There probably isnt anyone here that doesnt wish there were at
>least another 24 episodes. Or another series almost exactly like
>Space:1999's first season. I hear they're trying to revive Battlestar
>Galactica. Seems to me 1999 would be a lot easier to do. Since Galactica
>finally reached Earth and Lorne Greene and Lloyd Bridges are both gone.
>If anyone else has any ideas how to get more Space:1999 made,please let
>me know.
>
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Date: Sat, 05 Jun 1999 07:48:14 -0500
From: David Welle <dwelle@itol.com>
Subject: Space1999: Space Warp [FWD]
>From: "Brian Dowling" <techlab5@space1999.com>
>Date: Thu, 6 May 1999 18:48:39 +0100
>Subject: Re: Space1999: <no subject>= = Space Warp
>
>Ariana wrote...
>
>> > I can't believe I missed it rubbish or not!. I clean forgot it was
on. I
>> > wish the BBC would move it from Saturday afternoons, I always gad
about on
>> > a Saturday and never think to switch the TV on. Still I'll catch
Dorzak on
>> > Monday...
>>
>> Same here. I looked at the clock -- 6.00 pm -- and thought "hmm, wasn't
>> there something on this afternoon... aargh!". Still, I felt better when I
>> realised it was only Space Warp. :)
>>
>> I can't make head or tail of the order the BBC is showing these in, though.
>> I was expecting the production order the various Web sites list, but
they're
>> showing them all over the place. Next one is *Dorzak*? That's normally the
>> third to last episode, isn't it? I certainly don't see it as taking place
>> before "The Bringers of Wonder".
>>
>> Mind you, they started off by showing "Earthbound" straight after
>> "Breakaway" so there's obviously some ploy at work that we're not privy
>> to...
>
>The BBC really are buggering the show about. So much for the "first
>ever network run" idea... God help us when the cricket world cup
>starts - that could really throw things totally up in the air. I know
>I've missed one of the eps, but I really have no idea which one.
>Maybe I'll wait until Granada Plus run it. I'm sure they have bought
>the rights to show the whole ITC library...
>---------------------------------------------------------------------------
>Brian Dowling - Birmingham, England
>Online Alphan #144
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Date: Sat, 05 Jun 1999 07:49:14 -0500
From: David Welle <dwelle@itol.com>
Subject: Re: Space1999: Here's a thing... [FWD]
>From: "Brian Dowling" <techlab5@space1999.com>
>Date: Thu, 6 May 1999 18:48:39 +0100
>Subject: Re: Space1999: Here's a thing...
>Reply-To: techlab5@space1999.com
>
>Barry wrote in response to the Aston University thing I found
>
>> Hello Brian, All,
>> I wonder is anyone over there *across the pond* going to this event? I'd
>> like to see some pics and hear how it goes. Sounds like fun :)
>
>The university balls I've been to are kind of like Fanderson
>merchandise - restricted sales only - in this case tickets are sold only
>to staff and students of the university concerned. Friends are
>allowed to come along if you buy tickets for them in advance.
>
>I doubt whether the ball would have an overly sci-fi theme - it's
>usually formal dress and get massively stuffed with food and similarly
>inebriated. If anyone on list knows anyone at Aston University
>though... :-)
>
>
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Date: Sat, 5 Jun 1999 18:05:41 +0300
From: "Leonidas Papadopoulos" <pleonida@otenet.gr>
Subject: Re: Space1999: Re: mpegs [FWD]
> >From: moonbubba@webtv.net (moon bubba)
> >Date: Wed, 2 Jun 1999 05:53:07 -0400 (EDT)
> >Subject: Re: mpegs
> >
> > I was also wondering if someone
> >could maybe make more mpegs and put them up somewhere. Like scenes from
> >various episodes and what have ya
There is a site dedicated to Space 1999 in Sweden that has video clips from
the episodes.
Actually, what the owner of the site is doing, is posting a set of video
clips from every episode every month or so.He is following the production
order of the episodes.He has posted clips from "Breakaway" and he is
currently at "Matter of Life And Death".You can see all that at:
http://hem2.passagen.se/mape1494/eng/1999.htm
But I have to mention that the clips have a very small resolution
(160*120)due to his video card which can't export clips larger than the
resolution metioned above.But nevertheless, it's a start.It's a blessing to
me(sic) who haven't seen the series for 10 years now(the channels don't show
it and I don't have a video player to see it on tape).
Best regards to all Alphans
Leonidas
pleonida@otenet.gr
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Date: Sat, 5 Jun 1999 18:10:29 +0200
From: Ekmar Brand <Ekmar.Brand@t-online.de>
Subject: Re: Space1999: Space:1999 [FWD]
David Welle schrieb:
> >From: moonbubba@webtv.net (moon bubba)
> >Date: Wed, 2 Jun 1999 05:35:11 -0400 (EDT)
> >Subject: Space:1999
> >
> >I'm in a talkative mood,so here's yet another post from yours truely...I
> >was wondering if there were any movie producers subscribed to the list?
> >Or does anyone know how much it would cost to produce either a movie or
> >another series or mini-series of Space:1999. Maybe the series could be
> >called Destination: Moonbase Alpha. Kinda like Space:1999: The Next
> >Generation or something. It could all be CGI for all I care,I just wish
> >there were more episodes! It could all be computer animation and just
> >get the actors to do the voices. Or get a new cast set a hundred years
> >later and they get another call from Texas City.Does anyone know if
> >Gerry Anderson would be interested in doing this? He's gotta have tons
> >of money. I'd be willing to chip in if it would help. Or start a
> >fundraiser. What if all the proceeds from say the CD were put into
> >another production? I'd buy ten of them. What if we all wrote to New
> >Line Cinema or Ted Turner or somebody and bugged them about making this
> >happen? Just a few ideas,maybe someone else will want to kick these
> >ideas around for awhile. We might actually come up with something. I
> >know theres been a few posts in the past about people wanting more
> >Space. There probably isnt anyone here that doesnt wish there were at
> >least another 24 episodes. Or another series almost exactly like
> >Space:1999's first season. I hear they're trying to revive Battlestar
> >Galactica.
Yes, the official Battlestar Galactica movie website is
http://www.battlestarmovie.com
Ekmar
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Date: Sat, 05 Jun 1999 18:45:48 +0100
From: Nick Abadzis <nick@nabad.demon.co.uk>
Subject: Space1999: 1st viewing of later 2nd season episodes
Hello all,
I gather the list has been a bit, uh, "under-the-weather" and a lot of posts
have gone missing (I thought some of the e-mail "traffic" seemed a bit
all-over-the-place). Whatever.
Today, here in Blighty, the last episode of Space:1999 goes out under its
"network premiere" banner; i.e., Aunty Beeb is finally broadcasting "The
Dorcons" which I'm taping as I type this (I prefer to watch this stuff late
at night - esp. the 1st season episodes. An eerie 1st season ep. gains even
more in atmosphere when viewed in the small hours of the morning, I find).
Until these recent re-runs, I'd not seen a few of the later 2nd season
episodes as it was truncated in the area I lived when it was broadcast when
I was a kid. Then my family moved away from the U.K. and I never got to see
the later episodes, until now: recently, I've got to see "Seance Spectre",
"The Lambda Factor", "The Immunity Syndrome" and "Bringers of Wonder" (the
latter two-parter edited together by the BBC and transmitted as a
"double-length" ep). Hmmm. Like so much of the second season, seemed a bit
of a mixed bag t'me. Taken on its own terms ("action-adventure"), to me,
season two can sometimes be a real laugh (and that can depend on my mood)
and often it just doesn't work, at least dramatically. There are always
redeeming features: the great production design, likeable actors, cool
spaceships, et cetera. But always, for me personally, there is the "spectre"
of the 1st season, its successes and potentials, hanging over the second
year and the direction it took. I'm not even gonna attempt to compare the
two here, but I thought I'd put down my thoughts on the episodes I've
watched recently. One small awareness for you folks kindly bothering to read
this: when I was a kid, I adored this programme out of all perspective
(along with Doctor Who). I was disappointed when Victor Bergman, Paul Morrow
and the rest vanished between seasons along with the sense of grandeur and
eerieness, but I got over it and continued to enjoy the series. What follows
is what I think *now* on the episodes I never saw as a kid, so I've no
memory of them to colour my "adult" (har!) responses to them.
I really liked "The Immunity Syndrome" and thought, overall, it's one of the
best Y2 eps, although the ending's a little lacklustre. (Could have been
improved upon with a bit of moody lighting, perhaps?) But the overall
concept is intelligent (writ by a Mr. J.Byrne; wot a surprise!) and, sitting
watching the episode, I got the feeling that the Alphans were in genuine
danger and at the mercy of things much larger than themselves: at odds with
an environment and alien being that they couldn't understand. The theme of
(mis)communication continues throughout the episode (Koenig's attempts to
get a message to Alpha; the team's unravelling of the mystery of the alien
obelisk and its occupant) and is handled nicely while never really being
given stage-centre treatment. The eagle crash is great (FX-wise and
dramatically) as you realise that it's served to maroon the Alphans in a
progressively hostile environment and it really ups the tension. Also the
fact that Tony doesn't just "get over" his encounter with the alien (even at
the end, as his comment attests, plus the fact that he's still bed-ridden)
gives it all a sense of believabilty often lacking in some of the Y2 eps.
All-in-all great stuff; I enjoyed it.
"The Lambda Factor" isn't too bad, but I found it lacked the dramatic impact
"Immunity" had, and I've found that I've already kind of forgotten what it
was about. Well, not exactly, but overall, the ep. had a kind of vagueness
that I can't pin on any one thing - perhaps a stronger, more versatile
actress in the guest lead of Carolyn Powell might've sold it more for me.
That's a little unfair, maybe, but I felt there was something, somewhere in
this production needing a polish; maybe it was Terrance Dick's script
(perhaps he was writing too many Dr.Who novelizations that week). There were
some nice scenes in the Alphans' rec. area, and the wind machine at the end
with Koenig's showdown of wills with Carolyn in Command Centre was not too
bad. On a purely visual note though, I hated the FX of the whirly
telepathic-thing hovering on the big screen: it looked to me to be some kind
of crap sun-god motif and didn't seem remotely alien. On my personal 1999
"unconvincing" list it's up there with Vindrus' costume (from "Matter of
Balance") and the chemicals at-the-bottom-of-a-fish-tank cloud FX when the
laser gun's firing on the Beta Cloud in the ep. of same name. Hmm. Best not
mention that ep, though. (N.B. Overall, I have very few complaints about FX
in this show).
"Bringers of Wonder". Well, I've read a quite a few bits and pieces on this
ep. over the years, which is perhaps what blew it for me. I thought it was
terrible. All the usual nice production design (great superswift), but why
was this given the two-parter treatment? Surely an ep. like, say, "Seance
Spectre" would have benefited from an extended running time, dealing as it
does with what would probably be a very real situation cropping up on
Moonbase Alpha (the mutiny). But, I digress... I thought BOW would have
benefited from hefty editing. After the arrival of the superswift, there's
about three important plot points which could have been dealt with in the
show's usual three-act structure. Instead, it's stretched out over two
episodes which drag, especially at the end with that damnably long fight
outside the nuclear waste domes. Backtracking, that first plot point where
Koenig first sees the gooey aliens and freaks out (and man, he really freaks
out), I thought the editor overdid it a little with all those cuts to Martin
Landau's rolling eyes. It was a bit... "let's cut to his eyes just to
emphasise that he's freaking out over these ugly things. Then let's do it
again, just to emphasise it a bit more. Oh, we're running short on this
episode? Let's just stick in a bit more footage of Landau's eyes. He's so
good at freaking out, isn't he?". Landau is an excellent actor, and so often
carried this kind of daftness in the second series, but this time it really
over-egged the pudding for me (no criticism of Landau). Interestingly
(sorry, brief digression again), in Fanderson's Space:1999 documentary
(recently borrowed from a friend and viewed at the same time as these
episodes), Landau mentions that he felt sometimes he was asked to do things
that were scripted in the second season that he felt went against what had
been established about Koenig's character - as an actor who comes across in
this doc. as a chap with some integrity, it must have been difficult to
square that "shoot-first-and-ask-questions-later" with what had gone before,
and hats off to the guy for nearly always succeeding and remaining
convincing even in the face of some sometimes truly dumb dialogue.
As for the scenes when the superswift crew first make their appearance, what
should have been heart-rending reunions (even if they were ultimately
revealed to be alien) with the Alphans seemed to me to be a bit trite and
over-contrived (all that back-slapping and mock warmth.) The "Diana"
character seemed to have been conceived as a gag, but it all came across as
a tad embarrassing and ultimately, unconvincing. The Alphans, at this point
have been in space, what, five years? Where were the tears of suppressed
heartbreaks-mended when the loved ones put in their appearance? Well there
were a few punches on the sleeve and a few exchanges about a couple of
ambitions fulfilled, but the only truly convincing moment came when Sanra
Benes (or Sahn, whichever one they're calling her here) meets her fiance
(OH! So good to see John from "The Tomorrow People" in another role). In the
end, I felt that the whole idea of the aliens as psychic vampires/wolves in
sheep's clothing was good, but the tiresome execution didn't remotely live
up to the premise.
By comparison, "Seance Spectre" was top entertainment. This is pacey stuff,
and by Y2's action-adventure criteria, pretty much succeeds. (I don't think
action-adventure and decent scriptwriting have to be mutually exclusive, but
they so often are). It was really interesting to hear about Sanderson's
"surface exploration team" and the fact that they were out longer and more
often on the lunar surface than any other Alphan, which kicked off their
susceptibility to Sanderson's leadership. It helped sketch in enough of a
background to make Sanderson's motivations/convictions believable, and
beyond that, with the whole roller-coaster ride with the computer pole-axed
and the subsequent eagle crash-landing on Tora; to the hearkening back to
the "massive nuclear explosion" that originally sent the moon on its
odyssey; it added up to a really entertaining episode. The fight scene at
the nuclear waste shafts at the end, was, in a way, not dissimilar from the
above-mentioned in BOW, but here seemed to work a lot better and left me
with a more satisfied feeling towards the whole thing.
It was a bit of a marathon run, watching this lot in (nearly) one go, and
I'd mark "Immunity Syndrome out" as one of the 2nd season's highlights. The
rest, OK as ever, but as my girlfriend (who hasn't watched the show since
she was a kid) commented "The episodes with that Italian bloke in are the
ones where that program started to go downhill". I laughed out loud, but to
a non-1999 fan, how can you explain it? It's an underrated show, but if I
had to recommend episodes to an intelligent SF fan who'd never seen it
before, I think they'd mostly be Y1 episodes. Then you could show 'em the
nutso Y2 ones when they were into it (and watch them wilt with astonishment
and say, "is this the same program?"), but... I'm always finding myself
wishing there were more episodes in existence with the style of the first
season. Still, 1999 is full of what-if's, which is, I suppose, what makes it
so rich in storytelling possibilities, even today, here in the "future".
With that, I'm going to go and watch "The Dorcons", the last episode I've
never seen and which, I believe, has Patrick Troughton (second Dr.Who) in it
as a guest star. G'bye all, and thank-you for your kind indulgence in
listening to an old 1999 fans' meandering thoughts... it's so nice to have
people to talk to... people who understand... (:))
P.S. Maybe someone should start lobbying Johhnny Byrne to write "Children of
the Gods" as a novel...
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