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space1999-digest        Wednesday, 26 February 1997    Volume 01 : Number 008


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From: FResler169@aol.com
Date: Wed, 26 Feb 1997 02:42:03 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Re: Space1999: BEST YEAR ONE PRE-CREDIT SEQUENCE?

In a message dated 2/25/97 10:02:30 PM, you wrote:

<<I think that the distinction for the longest opening sequence belonged to
"The Infernal Machine"
>>

Actually, someone timed the teasers once and posted them.  Space Brain was
the longest.  I wish I had still had that list!

Floyd

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From: Maurizio Majelli <majelli@inopera.it>
Date: Wed, 26 Feb 1997 09:17:56 +-100
Subject: Space1999: OT:MS-Exchange settings (was: My apologies)

Marshall, all

Hope not to be seemed annoyed in my preceding
post.I replied to the list just to test the mail and 
make aware others who could have my same problem.
Well, my anger was only turned to Microsoft
because of that incomprehesible problem (the ghost
attachment) I cause unintentionally.

However, I don't think it depends on style and
layout info only  (as Marcy mentioned). I disabled
the return receipt and it seems to work now.

Please let me know if my reply contained
that ill-famed attachment. If not, I will leave
the setting as is now and will forget the
receipt forever.

Last thing, the message I sent to Space1999@buffnet.net
seemed not to have problems (was:See you on October)

I'm very sorry, since I believe in the rules and I spend
most of the time in learning how to avoid bothering
list members and admins.
Again, your last efforts are very much appreciated, and
the effects are visible. Hope you will continue
keeping us on the right way.

Maurizio

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From: Maurizio Majelli <majelli@inopera.it>
Date: Wed, 26 Feb 1997 13:17:18 +-100
Subject: R: Space1999: New 1999 Quake Images!

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Hi David, all interested people

>Has any of these new things been added to the HDR
>playable game yet?  If not will there be an update soon?  

As I vaguely ;) wrote to Kevin, there are lots of things I'm
working on at moment. But they need to be packed and checked.
Basically monster models work fine, as well as the textures and
light effects.Instead, compiling all that stuff requires a very long time
so I'll do it when I know that all is ok.
However I decided to release the S1999 patch first, so that who owns
the game can play as he/she were Koenig, using the new customized
interface which is still working.
I also decide to release public playable updates only after the testing
phase is completed (poor Kevin ;)). 
Even if  I know some of you could be curious to
face our beloved antagonists in advance... but,I really  want to build
an intriguing plot and not to spoil the final surprise... 

Should you have any suggestions or questions please feel free
to e-mail me privately.

Maurizio

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From: Gary Girouard <GGirouard@lifespan.org>
Date: Wed, 26 Feb 1997 08:29:16 -0500
Subject: Re: Space1999:Longest opening

I think it may be a close tie to A>B Chrysalis in season 2, Gary

I think that the distinction for the longest opening sequence belonged to
"The Infernal Machine"




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From: HANSENS KITCHEN EQUIPMENT <sales@hansens.co.uk>
Date: Wed, 26 Feb 1997 13:37:00 +0000
Subject: Space1999: New Subscriber

Hi. I=92ve been a Space fan since the age of 11 and think it=92s wonderfu=
l
that 1999 fandom is so active on the Net. It=92s nice to know there are
other aficionados out there - maybe I won=92t be such a closet fan after
this! I=92ve been lurking for the few months I=92ve had access to the
Internet, and have read previous Mailing List discussions via the Meta
Forms Threads archive. The Cyber Museum is particularly impressive. =

I=92m a Year 2 fan (although I enjoy Year 1 too), and greatly enjoyed
Philippa Sidle=92s fan fiction. Does anyone know of any other sources of
fan fiction (aside from David Welle=92s upcoming works), either on the Ne=
t
or via various fan clubs? =


On a slightly off-topic aside, I=92ve only been subscribed to the list
since February 21st, and wonder how long it usually takes for mail to
circulate to each subscriber? I=92ve been checking out the
ftp.buffnet.net/space1999-digest.archive, but haven=92t been able to
download any files (I use Netscape, which says it "cannot locate
files"), and haven=92t yet received any real-time messages from my server=
=2E


Alison Braidwood
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From: "Robert Ashley Ruiz" <espresso@dnai.com>
Date: Wed, 26 Feb 1997 07:31:25 -0700
Subject: Space1999: Thank You Johnny Byrne/All

Just wanted to share with you all that Space: 1999 writer Johnny
Byrne has very generously pledged to cover the cost of the list for
TWO FULL MONTHS!  I will tally this stuff up today and let you know
where we stand, as others have recently offered to pick up a month,
half-month, or week as well. 

We still haven't reached our goal of paying for a full year, so keep
those contributions coming.

On behalf of everyone on the list, THANKS to all who have contributed!

Robert
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From: Gary Girouard <GGirouard@lifespan.org>
Date: Wed, 26 Feb 1997 10:39:40 -0500
Subject: Space1999: space 1999

Does anyone know of another vendor besides strtrade that sells space
1999 episodes? Strtrade doesnt carry a few that i would lie to obtain,
Thanks Gary

Ggirouard@lifespan.org
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From: John J Fleming <John@coldnorth.com>
Date: Wed, 26 Feb 1997 11:03:07 -0500
Subject: Space1999: OT: Stereolithography

My fellow Alphans, and Galacticans,

     I am in need of a source, in the Ottawa-Toronto-Montreal area, of
companies that provide Stereolithography services. If you know of any such
compnies, could you please pass on that info to me. As well, if you are
living in the Toronto area, or Montreal area, could you do a look up for me.
I don't have any telephone books for those areas.
     Come to think of it, ANY company ANYWHERE would be helpful. All info
from anywhere would be much appriciated.

     Thanks in advance.


Later...


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From: Gary Girouard <GGirouard@lifespan.org>
Date: Wed, 26 Feb 1997 12:55:45 -0500
Subject: Space1999: Thank You Johnny Byrne/All -Reply

Robert,
            My check is in the mail as of today, Gary
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From: Andre Beauchamp <relax@videotron.ca>
Date: Wed, 26 Feb 1997 13:18:17 -0500
Subject: Space1999: Year 2 changes and more...

David Welle wrote:
> 
> 
> Whheeew!  Sorry for the length.  I hope it was interesting.
> 
>

Ho yes it was !!!

Thank you for sharing all that information.


Andre Beauchamp
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From: Marcy K <mk@wizard.com>
Date: Wed, 26 Feb 1997 13:17:34 -0500
Subject: Space1999: MS-Exchange settings

Maurizio wrote:
>
>However, I don't think it depends on style and
>layout info only  (as Marcy mentioned). I disabled
>the return receipt and it seems to work now.

Here is the complete information on how to use Microsoft Exchange without
sending the mysterious attachments for all Exchange users out there:

DISABLING Microsoft Exchange's Rich Text Formatting:

When sending mail to <Mailing List> from Microsoft's Exchange's
mail client please disable the "Rich Text" feature in this software.
"Rich Text" creates and attaches a file to the message so that other
users of MS Exchange can view the message in special fonts, styles
and colors.  This attached file is invisible to users of Exchange.
But most other mail programs can not decipher this information and
receive it as a useless file attached to the message.  It wastes
space on mail servers and is translated into dozens of lines of
random text when transferred to the digest form of this list.
To disable this Windows95 feature please do the following:

1) Open MS Exchange by double-clicking on the "Inbox" or by
   selecting MS Exchange from the "Start/Program" menu.

2) In the menu select "Tools" and "Address Book"

3) In the "Address Book" window that opens, select "File"
   and "New Entry".

4) A "New Entry" window opens, highlight "Internet Mail
   Address" and select "Ok".

5) A "New Internet Mail Address Properties" window opens,
   click on the tab labeled "SMTP-Internet"

6) Enter Display Name: <Name of List>

7) Enter Email Address: <mailing-list@domain.com>

8) Make sure the box labeled "Always send messages in
   Microsoft Exchange rich text format" IS NOT checked.

9) Select "Apply" and then "OK".

This creates an entry titled <Name of List> in your address
book.  Use it to send mail to the list.

If you have previously created an entry for this address you can
disable "Rich Text" by selecting "File" and "Properties" and make
sure that the box labeled "Always send messages in Microsoft
Exchange rich text format" IS NOT checked.


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From: jquimby@juno.com (Jeanette K Quimby)
Date: Wed, 26 Feb 1997 13:56:59 EST
Subject: Space1999: Space 1999:  OT:  Update from Jeanette

I want to thank everyone for the wonderful words of support and
encouragement.

Preliminary results from Joshua's bone marrow are positive - he has plump
and happy platelets.  We are now awaiting the cytogenetic results (which
take about three weeks to grow cells - wonders of medical technology).

Due to his age and still extremely low count, they have finally decided
to attempt therapy with an immunoglobulin to stimulate his platelets.  We
will be going to the M.D. Anderson Cancer Center weekly for a 6 hour IV
therapy session.  Hopefully, he won't need this too long.  I'm going to
be very positive!

Joshua overall, is wonderful.  He's a growing, blue-eyed wonderful baby
boy.  We don't let him crawl - because I have a fear of him rolling over
and hitting his head and bleeding, but he is in a walker and scoots all
over the place.  Nothing is safe at coffee table level!  If it weren't
for the bruises he has, you would never know he was sick - you would just
think we were horrible parents.  He's eight months old and a wonderful
blessing to his parents and sister and brother.  

Just be prepared to see baby/toddler pictures at the convention in 1999! 
I plan to bring a few with me <g>!

So, keep your us in your prayers.  It has been a very long eight months,
but I know that with your thoughts and support - Joshua will soon be
okay.

Back to lurking - I hope to be more proactive with the group very soon. 
Until then, I'll be enjoying the mail that I can read.  

Your alphan(s) in Houston

Jeanette Quimby and Family 
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From: John J Fleming <John@coldnorth.com>
Date: Wed, 26 Feb 1997 15:04:39 -0500
Subject: Space1999: OT: Stereolithography: Some clearification

My fellow Alphans, and Galacticans, again!!

     Some were a bit confused by the term Stereolithography, confusing it
with Stereograms and Stereophotography. It is completely different, and even
more interesting than those.

     How's this for an explaination...

     Stereolithography or Rapid Prototyping:
     Stereolithography is the system used to convert CAD (3D) drawings from
a computer file to a realworld three-dimensional object. To create a
stereolithography part, first a three-dimensional CAD part is "sliced"
horizontally into cross-sections 0.005" thick. The slices are fed to 3D
Systems' Stereolithography Apparatus (SLA-250). Inside the chamber of the
apparatus, an ultraviolet laser traces the first layer of the part on a
metal platen, submerged just below the surface of a vat of photo-sensitive
polymer. Wherever the laser touches the liquid, it instantly solidifies.
Once the layer is traced, the platen sinks 0.005" below the level of the
liquid. A sweeper bar moves across the surface of the last layer, making
sure there is the exact amount of resin on top. The next layer is then built
upon the previous layer. In this manner the entire part is built from the
bottom up, with the completed sections of the part remaining submerged.


Later...


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From: John R Prewitt III <termie@aquest.com>
Date: Wed, 26 Feb 1997 15:22:09 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Space1999: Hmmm....

Okay....I'm sure this questuion has been asked and answered
a few hundred times already, but could someone mail me
privately (termie@aquest.com) and tell me why the list moved?

Not that it upsets/pisses me off or anything...just curious.
			-John, #102 (I believe?)

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From: DAllard422@aol.com
Date: Wed, 26 Feb 1997 15:26:19 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Re: Space1999: BEST YEAR ONE PRE-CREDIT SEQUENCE?

Although not my favorite first year episode, I think Troubled Spirit has the
most effective beginning.  It's like entering a haunted house; you know you
are about to get scared.

But my favorite ending from both years is Black Sun.  I just love the way
Victor walks down the hall, turns, and flicks the ash from his cigar with
that sort of smirk.

Lynn
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From: ggreg perry <ggreg@nwu.edu>
Date: Wed, 26 Feb 1997 14:35:15 -0600
Subject: Space1999: Ratings, ITC, Year 2 Changes, and Freiberger

 they simply needed a new producer who
>would *willingly drive* to make the now-mandated changes.  That is what
>Freiberger did.  He was charged with the job of taking those somewhat
>general mandates and coming up with specific things to do to flesh out
>these changes.  He did that.

yes he did, yes he did.  it is is fault (the blame) because of the way he
went about making these changes.  someone else could have been handed an
identical sent of directives from ITC new york, and while i personally would
still have disagreed strongly with them in the first place, and initiated
them much more intelligently and realistically.


>So frankly and perhaps unexpectedly, Freiberger does not seem to be the one
>at fault for the fact of the changes that were made to S19 between its
>first and second season.  The causes of the changes are thus deeply-rooted
>and interconnected, stretching essentially back to the production of the
>first season.

there is no reason to fault the original first series of episodes, since,
while they may have not been perfect, they set the
tone/outlook/mood/style/look of the series.  what you do in this situation
is yes, corrct the weaknesses, but build on the strengths as well, not
abolish them.  again freiburger is at fault for making the SPECIFIC changes
according to his hollywood-used-car-salesman approach to tv producing.

>
>So who's to blame?  Perhaps the answer is "nobody but everybody."  

again, a more talented, thoughtful person could have carried out the ITC
mandates while still maintaining the basic dignity of the series.

>So that leaves but one more question to wrap up this all up.  Was Fred
>Freiberger a "Series Killer?"

hai.  si.  yes.  

 but in comparison to all of the
>factors that were already out of his control, I simply don't believe that
>he can be made scapegoat for all the perceived problems of the second season.

the man has no background or interest in SF.  he was hired because he
happened to work on last season trek and was affordable. anybody could have
done the same job. any joe off the streets knew as much generic, hoary, SF
cliches as he did:  spacewarps/talking plants/"weird" aliens and monsters,
brightly colored "futuristic looking" plastic all over the place.  he is and
always will be an untalented tv hack.  look at the couple of episodes he
actually wrote for second season 1999.  i rest my case.  

ggreg

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From: "Giovanni Pavone" <giov.pav@iol.it>
Date: Wed, 26 Feb 1997 21:35:20 +0100
Subject: Space1999: Space 1999 Images

I'm tring to realize an Italian Spazio 1999 site with all the 24 episodes
of both series and with some information about the life of Alphans.
I'd like to insert the images of the Alpha's staff but I don't have images
of Alan ,Tony ,Maya ,Kano
Sandra ,Paul and Yasko.
Can you send me somethig ?

Excuse me for my horrible english ,I'm learnig it ! !

Giovanni Pavone
E-mail : giov.pav@iol.it
Spazio 1999 home page : http:\\users.iol.it\giov.pav

... To put meaning in on's life may end in madness,
    But life without meaning is the torture
    Of restlessness and vague desire -
E. Lee Masters
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From: djlerda@juno.com (David J Lerda)
Date: Wed, 26 Feb 1997 16:04:42 EST
Subject: Re: Space1999: Ratings, ITC, Year 2 Changes, and Freiberger

Just thought I would add my comments and some histroy for those who
haven't heard it:

After Trek was renewed for its 3rd season (as a result of the
letter-writing campaign), Gene Roddenberry planned to return to the
producer spot  (he had been executive producer).  Trek was supposed to
get Monday night at 7:30.  NBC contacted Roddenberry and told him that
they were moving Trek to Friday nights at 10 pm because Laugh-in wanted
Mondays at 8 and refused to be moved back a half hour.  Since they had
more ratings clout, Trek lost that battle.  Once this was done,
Roddenberry realized that Trek was doomed and decided it was not worth an
early death from overwork for a show that couldn't possibly survive no
matter what he did.

Fred Freiberger had been producing The Wild, Wild West and Ben Casey so
he was recognized as a professional in Hollywood.  In fact, Roddenberry
asked Freiberger
if he wanted to produce the show from the time NBC picked it up as a
series.  Gene wanted to see a sample episode and Freiberger politely told
him that he was a producer, not a writer and "thanks, but no thanks."

Freiberger came into Star Trek onto a set with morale problems (because
everyone generally recognized that the show would not be renewed) and
money problems.  The show's budget had been cut to (if you can believe
it) $178,500 per show.  (Ted Danson won't even put on his toupee for that
amount these days).  There were also script problems both in terms of
overall story quality and characterizations.  The script problems were
exacerbated after Dorothy Fontana (who had been the story consultant for
3 years) quit the show due to problems with "The Enterprise Incident" and
"The Way to Eden."  It has been said that Freiberger really didn't
understand science fiction so they showed him some episodes so he'ld get
an idea of what type of show he'ld be producing.  When the lights came up
he supposedly said, "Oh, I get it.  Tits in space." and it was downhill
from there in the script department.  Needless to say, the show was
canned and Fred Freiberger has been villified by many Trek fans for 30
years as "the guy who killed Star Trek."    He has been defend recently
by Robert Justman (producer on the original Trek and NextGen).

I remember when Space:1999 premiered.  I thought it was great.  At the
time it didn't generate a lot of press where I lived (the Washington Post
ran a big article before the show premiered but that was about it).  In
those pre-"Star Wars" days the mainstream press still looked down its
nose at science fiction in general and fans were just a bunch of
pimply-face adolescents in rubbery Spock-ears.  "Something for the
kiddies."  The science fiction press was downright hostile.  They wanted
Star Trek and were pissed that Space wasn't Trek so they tore it apart. 
I admit the show had problems.  Hell, no show is perfect.  I think that's
one of the reasons we love it so much after 20 years.  We can look at the
mistakes and laugh.

As for ratings, Space did well in the DC/Baltimore markets.    It was put
in good time slots in both of these markets (Saturdays at 7pm in DC and
Sundays at 7 pm in Baltimore).  Newsweek magazine ran an article called
"Spaced Out" which said the show got "cosmic" ratings.   

My understanding of the second season changes was that ITC was aware of
the criticisms the show had gotten and wanted to bring up the ratings. 
Also a year went by between the end of production of the first season and
the start of production of year two and that Barry Morse couldn't see
eye-to-eye with ITC for returning to Year 2.  Prentis Hancock and Clifton
Jones had made prior commitments and couldn't come back.  Does anyone
have any more info on this?

Freiberger was brought in because of his experience in SF.  The science
fiction press in the US had a field day.  Here's the guy who "killed"
their beloved show coming on board a show they hated.  Freddie screened 8
episodes of the series (it would be interesting to find out which 8) and
praised the production values to the heavens.  He was less generous in
his assessments of the personal relationships of the characters - "We
don't give a damn about people we don't know and we certainly don't know
anybody on Moonbase Alpha."  He wanted scripts that called for "more
honest adventure."

Well, I don't want to belabor the topic but we all know what happened.  

David
David Lerda
Salisbury, Maryland, USA
djlerda@juno.com

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From: djlerda@juno.com (David J Lerda)
Date: Wed, 26 Feb 1997 18:56:10 EST
Subject: Space1999: Worst Year 1 Tag Sequence

Since we've been doing Year 1 intros, how about this:

My nominee for the worst Year 1 Tag Sequence is (drum roll
please)..........

"The Last Enemy"  -  Helena and John are sitting around in John's office
and basically restate what they said at the end of act III.  IMHO the
closing scene of act III beginning with Victor's comments and ending with
John's line "think of the cost" would have made a better tag.  Also the
tag was inconsistent with what we just saw moments earlier when Helena
came in screaming about "the damage, the casualties - we can't take much
more!"  In the tag she says the only casualties are 5 (or 7?) cases of 
inner ear damage!!!!!   Not to mention the fact that it was very
fortunate that none of those Deltan missiles hit anything important on
Alpha. 

David
David Lerda
Salisbury, Maryland, USA
djlerda@juno.com

David Lerda
Salisbury, Maryland, USA
djlerda@juno.com

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From: Robert Ruiz <R4ARUIZ@legal.pactel.com>
Date: Wed, 26 Feb 1997 16:16:01 -0800
Subject: Re: Space1999: Ratings, ITC, Year 2 Changes, and Freiberger -Reply

As I see it, Fred Feiberger did his job and tried to give ITC what it wanted.
His were good suggestions for change, they were just poor
implementations.  Freddy also completely underestimated the intelligence
of his audience, and, along with ITC, totally IGNORED and failed to even
try to understand Space: 1999's core audience of early adopters.

Look at "The Metamorph," though.  If they could have kept up the quality
of this episode throughout the second season, I think Space: 1999 would
have been a huge success, and accessible to many more people than a
continued run of season 1-like shows.

I've also said before that the characterization of Maya was completely
mishandled after "The Metamorph," and that most people who like Maya
are really reacting to Catherine's superb performance and underlying
charisma.  Spock on Star Trek appealed to people because he was
essentially an outsider, alone in the world, masking inner pain and
loneliness, and functioning in light of adversity.  In essence he was
someone that it was easy to empathize with, either because the viewer
shared his pain, or wanted to make him feel better.  He was also a
counterpoint to the establishment (humans), and therefore very revealing
of the humans he was bouncing off of.  Wouldn't this naturally be the
progression for Maya as well, considering the tragic circumstances that
led to her joining the Alphans?  Instead, she's bubbly, and more human
and well adjusted than the humans themselves, making the fact that
she's an alien nothing more than a gimmick, when in fact she had the
depth of character, a built-in history, to have been really fascinating and
multi-faceted, and she could have unfolded one layer at a time.

We also have to remember the time in which the series was created.  It
had for the most part really dopey competition and was at times probably
way over people's heads (this viewer included, at that age, though I
have come to appreciate its subtlety and even it's occasional ambiguity
over time).

The Alphans accepted the great unknown cosmic beauty of space
where they were lucky to be alive from one day to the next.  American
audiences weren't used to this.  They were used to active rather than
passive characters, and characters inflicting themselves on the
obstacles they encountered, whether it was native Americans in the
wild west or whatever.  The entire situation of the Alphans is essentially
passive, and I think this was hard for American audiences to get behind
initially.  Still, in time, after an initial ratings drop, the ratings started to
climb over the course of the first season, proving that the audience was
coming around, and they were adjusting to having to think about the
subtle levels of meaning instead of being spoon fed the meaning.  They
were adjusting to the fact that the show had it's own personality and
wasn't the carbon copy of Star Trek that they had either been expecting
or hoping for.  These are things that should have been built on by Gerry
Anderson, ITC, and their team, rather than abandoned.

I don't know why Fred Feiberger is villified so.  It's not a crime to lack
original vision or real talent, and he didn't purposefully set out to destroy
the show.  I'm sure it's quite the opposite.

To me, ITC and even (dare I say this) Gerry Anderson bear the brunt of
the blame.  Gerry seems too soft spoken and seems to have let people
walk all over him.  Abe Mandell mentioned he was disappointed because
there weren't any monsters in Space: 1999, and Gerry responded by
turning the show into a monster-of-the-week-athon.  The shows also
rarely evolved from within the characters, as was so well exemplified by
Tony Cellini in "Dragon's Domain."  Moreoften they were the result of
something outside inflicting itself on the inhabitants of Alpha.   Whatever
the reasons, Gerry failed to provide a consistent vision for the show and
to keep (or nudge) people in line (back in line) with it.

Did anyone watch Doppelganger last weekend?  I lasted for only 20
minutes before I bailed, and I was so BORED waiting for something
(anything) interesting to happen for that whole time.  Gerry seems to
have a fascination for gimmicky machinery and little else.  Nick Tate said
that, of the two producers, Sylvia Anderson was the one responsible for
whatever human qualities made it into 1999, and that when she left,
Gerry might have wanted to eradicate all her contributions.

Space: 1999 is a series that put the nail in the coffin of this couple's
troubled marriage.  Their visions were inconsistent, and their
resentments toward one another seem to have built up to the breaking
point over the course of the first season.

Television is a collaborative medium and full of compromise.  No one
person can be blamed for Space: 1999 so radically veering off course in
it's second season.  The real problems, to me, though, seem to be that
ITC had unrealistic expectations for immediate return on their $6.5 million
series (the most expensive series produced to date at that time); that the
entire first series was shot in succession before it was released, so that
by the time they started getting feedback it was too late to do anything
about it; ITC's constant meddling, thinking they knew better, not trusting
their creative team, and essentially failing to let the show evolve as it
would have naturally progressed without this artificial interference to try
to bend it into something it resisted being, and Gerry's failure to provide a
consistent vision and to seemingly hire people on a whim without doing
his homework.  (He basically discovered that Fred Freiberger produced
the third season of Star Trek and that he was available [never
questioning why], and said "You're hired!" without having any idea of
Fred's effect on that show, etc.)

Back to work,

Robert
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