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From: Marcy K <mk@wizard.com>
Date: Thu, 27 Feb 1997 15:15:08 -0500
Subject: Space1999: Old Digests Available
Hi Alphans!
Someone wrote to the list about not being able to retrieve the old digests
by ftp. I just checked and they are available at:
ftp.buffnet.net/space1999-digest.archive
Just put ftp.buffnet.net into your ftp client, or ftp://ftp.buffnet.net/ as
the URL on Netscape to get to buffnet's anonymous ftp server. Then choose
the folder space1999-digest.archive and you will find all the old digests
available for download separately or as one big compressed file.
Marcy
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From: atomicpossum@juno.com (Jonathon P Stadter)
Date: Thu, 27 Feb 1997 15:21:55 EST
Subject: Re: Space1999: Animated Series List
On Thu, 27 Feb 1997 13:45:24 EST djlerda@juno.com (David J Lerda) writes:
>>On 27 Feb 97 24:56:06 GMT JO2_Mike_Meridith@ccmail.nsfdg.navy.mil
>(JO2 Mike Meridith) writes:
>
>>I've talked to a friend of mine (the one who got the
>>episodes for me in the first place) who says that the
>>series came out in 1978 and had twelve episodes. I had two
>>tapes with a total of five episodes.
>>
>
>I'm sorry but this just sounds like a hoax. I'm a big 1999 fan and I
>always keep my eye out for the latest SF news so I know I would have
>heard about a cartoon series. As someone mentioned earlier, why would
>one be made in Australia only and not be syndicated to any other
>markets? Where there that many 1999 fans down under to make a cartoon
>feasible commercially (sadly, making a buck is the name of the game
>folks!)? I think not. HOWEVER, I could be wrong (it happened once
>before in 1967) so if I am I apologize in advance.
Well, Mike Meredith, it's up to you. If you can make a copy of your
remaining tape and get it to list member Michael Perry (the resident
Alpha Videologist), we can finally all see what we're talking about. I'm
sure the people on this list are not being deliberately rude, but
extraordinary claims need equal proof--It would just seem remarkable that
all these people who have been 1999 fans for twenty-or-so years, plus the
rest of 1999 fandom at large, would never have circulated, much less
heard of, this series.
Mike, if you can show us an episode, I'm SURE every list member will
exhaust themselves to find whatever might still be in existance, and no
one will protest when you are the first to receive copies. But, with
nothing further to go on, and no proof that they even exist, we have to
treat your claims skeptically.
- ---Jon "Mr. Wonderful" Stadter---
- ----atomicpossum@juno.com----
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From: Robert Ruiz <R4ARUIZ@legal.pactel.com>
Date: Thu, 27 Feb 1997 12:31:41 -0800
Subject: Space1999: Ratings, ITC, Year 2 Changes, and Freiberger
Ggreg Perry writes:
> the ironic thing is, of course, if 1999 did attempt to
> emulate star trek, these very same people would have
> still condemned it, for being a ripoff, as opposed to not
> being star trek. go figure.
Absolutely agreed. I saw this behavior at my one and only convention when I was
15 and I just felt like taking the podium and screaming at them for blindly
parroting Star Trek-isms and thinking themselves such great fans, while so
clearly (and vocally) not even UNDERSTANDING what Gene Roddenberry meant about
appreciating and respecting "infinite diversity in infinite combinations." They
seemed to be in it for the window dressing or the humor alone, I don't know.
> i think it is a crime to lack talent or vision
It's sad, it's a waste, but it's not a crime. To be a crime, there has to be
intent, and I'm sure Freddie believed he was making changes for the better
(which may be sad commentary on his ability to perceive, evaluate, and
implement).
> especially when the lack thereof is applied so devastatingly
> to said concept, so that what you enjoy(ed) about the
> original work is now completely destroyed.
Yes, but I don't see anything wrong with trying to make the show more
available/understandable/satisfying to the average viewer (or even younger
viewers who would then buy more toys). They had investors to answer to. The
difference, the CRIME of it, is that to get this perceived, sought after
audience they ignored their core group of early adopters, essentially betraying
the people who had brought them this far. Where was the market research? It's
sad (and I would say irresponsible to ITC's investors) that they only knew about
Nick Tate's appeal because he was asked to appear at one Star Trek convention.
This is the only reason they wanted him back for Series 2. ITC and Freddie are
guilty of assuming they KNEW BETTER, and being too lazy to research whether
their snap judgment opinions had any basis in fact.
> as well as there being so many other TALENTED and
> VISIONARY people out there who could have done the
> job better and with more integrity, and gotten paid for it
> as well.
No argument here, especially after spending three years living/working in the
hell hole that is the Hollywood system. I'm convinced that to be successful in
Hollywood you have to be a good partygoer. That's it. Sort of a court jester
to the establishment. All my schooling was about how to turn out the next
SchwarzeWillis flick, and I wasn't interested in that. Hollywood isn't about
creativity or originality, it's about commerce, and connections, and some of
those connections are quite sleazy. Sadly, merit is not generally in the
equation.
> and even if the second season was a hit and was
> followed by 3 more seasons of freddie-produced kiddie
> space stuff it still would not be acreative/artistic success
Sadly, I don't think Series 1 is considered a creative or artistic success by
the average person or even sci fi fan. It's too bad. I think if most people
watched Series 1 now, in production order, they would see quite a different
series than the one they remember and still think Space: 1999 is. I think it
was ahead of its time, I also think it answered its early criticisms over time
(the characters warmed, up, etc.) and its pleasures are subtler than people are
used to. It's more like an interesting, deceptively rich wine in a beautiful
bottle rather than one more mass produced can of soda.
> in fact, the series would be evenly less fondly remembered
> since there would be 4 seasons of year2 and one of season
> one.
There are lots of people who actually prefer Series 2 and they can't and
shouldn't be discounted (I'm no longer one of them). At least if there had been
four seasons, and 1999 was remembered as a success, there would almost certainly
be a big screen version rolling out on September 13, 1999. As things stand I
don't expect we will ever see such a thing.
> or imagine if there wasn't a year one at all, and both seasons
> were like year 2. the entire reason for 1999's uniqueness
> would not exist.
And I'd be doing a The Prisoner page instead of the Cybary. I'd still remember
it for the work of Keith Wilson and Brian Johnson. I just wouldn't remember it
so fondly. I hardly ever get the urge to watch a Series 2 episode anymore,
though I watch Series 1 episodes often.
> i don't know the whole story of course, but i think anderson
> really didn't have much of a choice, and really had no say
> in the creative end of things after season one.
I think he was at the point where he was willing to acquiesce to keep the thing
going, but from reading his biography and seeing him in the documentary, I think
he relinquished control too easily, and he even says this himself. Martin
Landau could have stood up too, but he couldn't afford to be seen as difficult
on another series as he had already been branded on Mission: Impossible. I know
Gerry is perceived as a big time rich producer, but his biography says that he
actually sort of fell on hard times after the series ended, even to the point of
trying to get work as a film editor, and people who might have helped him were
embarassed to hire him because it was such a reduction in stature.
> he was basically there in name only.
I think that's more by his choice than you might think. He tells of turning
over 1999 to Freiberger because he wasn't going to put his name on as producer
of a show in which Freddie was going to turn the format around, but I think the
truth of it is that, regardless of how he felt about her, Series 2 was the first
time he was producing for years and years without Sylvia's participation, and he
may have found himself lost and overwhelmed. This is a BITTER divorce. Gerry
writes that he hasn't seen his son (Gerry junior [who has since even changed his
name]) for years and he includes a picture of the boy that he only has because
one of his friends snuck it to him. It's a very interesting read, and again I
recommend it.
As for being powerless to resist the changes pushed for by ITC, again, a good
producer has a way of being strong and getting around this stuff and keeping
people to the basic thread of the show, even if peripheral stuff seems to be
giving them what they wanted.
>> Moreoften they were the result of something outside
>> inflicting itself on the inhabitants of Alpha.
> can't agree with this. i liked the idea of the stories on the
> show being about something as opposed to SOMEONE,
> like those shitty next generation shows about data and
> his cat or whatever. to me, most of these so-called character
> driven stories or series are really excuses for lack of a good
> story in the first place.
I'm DEFINITELY not asking for anything like this. All I mean is that stories
can arise from within the characters, like the character of Tony Cellini in
Dragon's Domain, and the mutiny in Seance Spectre (which even if I would have
handled differently, is an excellent story idea to explore in the context of
Space: 1999's moon base setting). The main thing I'm getting at with the
statement above is that these stories are about people, recognizable humans
rather than automatons. Due to RAI's participation, many of the most
interesting stories in 1999 happen to guest characters rather than regulars, and
so the regulars never got the depth that would have made them really deep and
recognizably human/non-interchangeable.
> Television is a collaborative medium and full of compromise.
> No one person can be blamed for Space: 1999 so radically
> veering off course in it's second season.
> okay robert, how about two: abe mandel/ITC new york and
> fredsome?
Fine! :) You'll have no argument from me. I will grant you that they may have
been the main parts of the problem, but I still don't think they are the entire
problem.
> like you said, everything was done practically freehand without
> any intital meddling by the business suit graduates who think
> they know something about filmmaking but do not.
You're right. Very often these people insist on changes just to justify their
existence, and they do this with no training in story structure or even an
understanding of why the average person seeks out entertainment in the first
place, which is a very basic need that goes back to the earliest cave dwellers
telling stories of the hunt in front of the fire.
> year one was and still is a unique, mutant strain of a
> televison show. as much as it was theoretically aimed
> at a big mainstream american tvmarket, i perceive it much
> more like a gift to all those who enjoy intelligent, challenging,
> literary-style hard science-fiction.
Agreed, and well put. Thought provoking ideas as always, Ggreg. Thanks!
Robert
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Date: Thu, 27 Feb 1997 16:11:06 -0500
Subject: Space1999: [Fwd: March's profile update]
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Profile Updates 12/1/96 - 3/1/97
Hello fellow Alphans!
Here's the current monthly update of the member profile. A few members have
updated their profiles along with some new entries by newbies. Marcy, you
can edit the new info into the CyberMuseum at your earliest (in)convenience.
=) The information is being forwarded to all list members as a courtesy to
all. Thanks everyone for your participation!
See you next time!
Geo
Alpha's Director of Personnel (currently in inactive duty status)
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(Updated Entries)
*Deactivated Status:
41) wccg@pusit.admu.edu.ph*
73) lotter@loop.com*
107) plexiva@lads.com*
110) basque19@mail.idt.net*
132) boomershine@acavax.lynchburg.edu*
167) Susan.M.Bowers@uwrf.edu*
Welcome aboard new members!
169) Trekfan100@aol.com
FULL NAME: Colleen A. Bement
ASSIGNED DUTY: Morale Officer
DATE OF BIRTH: 10-1-64
COUNTRY OF ORIGIN: United States
PLACE OF WORK: MCI
OCCUPATION: Order Entry
SNAIL MAIL ADDRESS: 10136 Lynx Lane, Littleton, CO. 80125
COMMENTS: Space:1999 is by far the most ingenious and creative sci-fi show
ever created! I've been a a huge fan since I was 12. Martin Landau is my
favorite actor!!! My favorite eppisode is Journey to Where. I'm the proud
owner of John, Helena, & Victor action figures, some trading cards, 8X10
photos of all 3, and , most of all, Marty & Barbara's autograph when they
came in to a gas station I used to work at!!!
170) swimgua@redestb.es
FULL NAME:Jose LuisGuadalupe
DATE OF BIRTH: November 11, 1965
COUNTRY OF ORIGIN: Spain
CURRENT PLACE OF WORK: MovArt Graphics Ltd and Hospital Universitario de
Canarias
OCCUPATION: Designer/Physioteraphyst
SNAIL MAIL ADDRESS: C/Lorenzo Tolosa 4 V3 S/C de Tenerife, 38008
Canary Islands SPAIN
COMMENTS: I've benn looking for info about SPace:1999 from the early 80s but
it's now when I discover all kind of stuff about Space:1999 and mainly in
debt of WWW INTERNET (Amazing!)
COLLECTIBLES:
* DESTINATION MOONBASE ALPHA VIDEOTAPE
*Spanish Audio tape from A CHAPTER OF THE SERIE
171) djlerda@juno.com
FULL NAME: David J Lerda
ASSIGNED DUTY: Pilot, Reconnaissance Section
DATE OF BIRTH: May 15, 1963
COUNTRY OF ORIGIN: United States of America
CURRENT PLACE OF WORK: Call Center Services
CURRENT OCCUPATION: Programmer
SNAIL MAIL ADDRESS: 32794 Mt Hermon Rd Parsonsburg, MD 21849
COMMENTS: Despite all of the flak the show took when it came on, Year 1 is
brilliant.
COLLECTIBLES: Moonbase Alpha Technical Notebook
Pocket Books Novelizations # 1-10
Topps Trading Card Set (66 cards)
Dinky Toys Nuclear Waste Eagle
Look forward to hearing from new members. Could you give me some more info
on the blueprints and tech notebook supplement you sell? Thanks.
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From: Robert Ruiz <R4ARUIZ@legal.pactel.com>
Date: Thu, 27 Feb 1997 13:37:40 -0800
Subject: Re: Space1999: Animated Series List -Reply
David J. Lerda writes about a Space: 1999 animated series:
> I'm sorry but this just sounds like a hoax.
Sounds like? Beware sheep in wolves' clothing. Again, is that you, Dudley?
I've never read anything about an animated series in everything I've read. I
have never heard mention of it. The Tech Notebook does not mention it, and
there was in fact only one printing of the Tech Notebook. No supplements or
further printings were ever issued. By the time the Tech Notebook came out, the
show had either just got canceled or was about to be, and ads for the Tech
Notebook continued to appear in Starlog for a long time but were relegated
(eventually) to the back of the magazine in tiny little ads (trying to sell of
printed stock, I guess).
The Charleton comics are a curiosity, but generally are poorly done in the story
department. It is amusing, however, to see characters talking into the owner's
photo image on the side of the commlock rather than into the viewscreen, and
also to spot the exact frames from certain episodes upon which they based their
artwork. (Alan Carter flies an Eagle with the console from the ship in
"Dragon's Domain" and is even wearing earphones just like Tony Cellini.)
The artist Johnny Byrne who did some of the comics in the series is apparently
quite well regarded in his field. He is, however, not the same Johnny Byrne who
wrote so many episodes of Space: 1999. Small world, huh? What are the odds?
Robert
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From: John@coldnorth.com (John J Fleming)
Date: Thu, 27 Feb 1997 16:52:59 -0500
Subject: Space1999: Johnny Byrne & Johnny Byrne
>The artist Johnny Byrne who did some of the comics in the series is apparently
>quite well regarded in his field. He is, however, not the same Johnny
Byrne >who wrote so many episodes of Space: 1999. Small world, huh? What
are the >odds?
Hey Robert, all,
What if we got Johnny Byrne to write a S19 story, and had Johnny Byrne
draw all the pretty pictures??
Later...
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From: Robert Ruiz <R4ARUIZ@legal.pactel.com>
Date: Thu, 27 Feb 1997 13:57:16 -0800
Subject: Space1999: Year 2 -Reply
James David writes:
> Based on year 2 itself without comparison to series one,
> I would like to hear what everyone's top five favorite
> episodes were and why.
You didn't tell us why you liked the ones you picked, but mine are:
The Metamorph
The Metamorph
The Metamorph
The Metamorph
The Immunity Syndrome
The easier question would be to answer which five from Series 2 we hate:
Catacombs of the Moon - Okay script, very weird direction (the burning bed on
the lunar landscape, puh-leeze, the selfless, one dimensional Michelle Osgood,
puh-leeze [can't remember other reasons because I never watch this lame-o
thing])
A Matter of Balance - Bad Vindrus costume, weak female lead in the form of
Shermeen. Can't relate. Don't care. See ya.
The Rules of Luton - Except the scene where Koenig and Maya discuss the global
war on Earth and its consequences.
The Taybor - Don't hate it, Skipper. Just think it's more a Dr. Who episode
than a 1999 episode.
Well, only four.
Can you tell it's a slow day at the office today? :)
Robert
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From: PatriEmb@aol.com
Date: Thu, 27 Feb 1997 17:46:27 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Re: Space1999: Contribution and a question
In a message dated 97-02-27 01:40:22 EST, you write:
<< My question to all Alphans. I am in the process of making something and
would like to know--if you were standing on the moon what color do you think
it would be. (please no green cheese jokes.) Also with an Eagle landing
what would you say the colors are. I think the main part would be white
with
the doors and turbos in red, and the landing pads and front section in
green.
Any help will be greatly appreciated. >>
The moon itself would probably be grey or brown without the eagle landing.
With the eagle landing, I think the doors would be white, the turbos in
black or grey, the landing pads in black or grey. Not very colorful, though.
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From: CHH1999@aol.com
Date: Thu, 27 Feb 1997 18:31:01 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Re: Space1999: Animated Series List
Hi all...question - I have the Technical Notebook and it doesn't mention in
any way the animated series. Are we sure about this?
Chris
CHH1999
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From: atomicpossum@juno.com (Jonathon P Stadter)
Date: Thu, 27 Feb 1997 18:27:05 EST
Subject: Re: Space1999: Johnny Byrne & Johnny Byrne
On Thu, 27 Feb 1997 16:52:59 -0500 John@coldnorth.com (John J Fleming)
writes:
>>The artist Johnny Byrne who did some of the comics in the series is
>apparently
>>quite well regarded in his field. He is, however, not the same
>Johnny
>Byrne >who wrote so many episodes of Space: 1999. Small world, huh?
>What
>are the >odds?
>
>Hey Robert, all,
>
> What if we got Johnny Byrne to write a S19 story, and had Johnny
>Byrne
>draw all the pretty pictures??
Johnny Byrne we all know.
JOHN BYRNE (not Johnny) is a Canadian artist living, I believe in
Calgary. He hit big in the early '80's when he took over the pencilling
chores on the recently-revived X-Men. His work at Charlton was several
years earlier, including '1999.' Charlton is long, long gone to
bankruptcy heaven.
He eventually left the X-Men and did work on books like the
Fantastic Four, the Avengers, etc etc etc, then DC, though that was long
after I stopped reading comics. Byrne was a big influence on me when I
was just starting the whole art thing....I used to copy his drawings all
the time, indulging fantasies of eventually working for Marvel (also well
on its way to bankruptcy heaven). THANK GOODNESS I GOT OVER THAT!!!
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From: "Peters, Pete" <BPeters@gwinnett.tec.ga.us>
Date: Thu, 27 Feb 1997 18:53:33 -0500
Subject: RE: Space1999: Landau loses Grammy to HRC
>>>From: StarParty@aol.com[SMTP:StarParty@aol.com]
>Sent: Wednesday, February 26, 1997 8:44 PM
>Now she's the first lady and a Grammy winner.
Hillary Rodham Clinton's book on child rearing
...etc,etc,etc ad nauseium, ad infinitum<<
(snip)
Please no posts regarding politics or religion! This can be an extreme
source of tinder for the fire. I am a teacher by trade and this can
have devistating results in a class room, I've experienced this first
hand, and I don't want to see the list even touching it with a ten foot
pole.
Any and all comments appreciated.
CADMiester Pete
>bpeters@gwinnett.tec.ga.us
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From: Candace Cardinal <candy@ICSI.Berkeley.EDU>
Date: Thu, 27 Feb 1997 16:23:54 -0800 (PST)
Subject: Space1999: trivia
Alphans--
If anyone is a fan of the band Spot 1019, you might be interested to know
that their name was a corruption of Space 1999 (=their original name).
Candace
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From: John@coldnorth.com (John J Fleming)
Date: Thu, 27 Feb 1997 19:39:29 -0500
Subject: Re: Space1999: trivia
>Alphans--
>
>If anyone is a fan of the band Spot 1019, you might be interested to know
>that their name was a corruption of Space 1999 (=their original name).
Why did they change it??
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From: "Jonathan Ward" <JWard@lonet.ca>
Date: Thu, 27 Feb 1997 20:01:23 -0500
Subject: Re: Space1999: Animated Series-Reply
This Space: 1999 animated series thing, while it would be wonderful if it
was real is nothing more than b.s. I bet the guy who originated this whole
thing is laughing it up at our responses.
Sorry buddy, but we're not stupid. Either produce the proof or stop pulling
our collective leg. Put up or shut up!
Ok, that was my $0.02, back to lurk mode.
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From: Jonathan Ward <JWard@lonet.ca>
Date: Thu, 27 Feb 1997 20:03:20 -0500
Subject: Space1999: animated series-Reply
This Space: 1999 animated series thing, while it would be wonderful if it
was real is nothing more than b.s. I bet the guy who originated this whole
thing is laughing it up at our responses.
Sorry buddy, but we're not stupid. Either produce the proof or stop pulling
our collective leg. Put up or shut up!
Ok, that was my $0.02, back to lurk mode.
Jonathan Ward (JWard@Lonet.ca)
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From: DAllard422@aol.com
Date: Thu, 27 Feb 1997 20:17:29 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Re: Space1999: Year 2 -Reply
Am I the only one out there who enjoys yr 2 as much as yr 1? I find things I
truly enjoy about each yr and things I dislike.
I always wished that they kept Victor to be sort of a father figure to Maya,
helping her to adjust. I also wished that Maya wasn't the star of every
show, either by being the center of it, or by always being the one to save
them. But I did like the friendlier atmosphere. And I'm sorry but I never
did quite like Paul or at least as not as much as Tony. The writer's never
showed us the side that Sandra loved.
Only my opinion
Lynn
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From: atomicpossum@juno.com (Jonathon P Stadter)
Date: Thu, 27 Feb 1997 20:41:45 EST
Subject: Re: Space1999: Year 2 -Reply
On Thu, 27 Feb 1997 13:57:16 -0800 Robert Ruiz <R4ARUIZ@legal.pactel.com>
writes:
>James David writes:
>
>> Based on year 2 itself without comparison to series one,
>> I would like to hear what everyone's top five favorite
>> episodes were and why.
>
>The easier question would be to answer which five from Series 2 we
>hate:
>A Matter of Balance - Bad Vindrus costume, weak female lead in the
>form of
>Shermeen. Can't relate. Don't care. See ya.
When they come back from the teaser, Helena says that it is 1702 days
since leaving Earth orbit (over 4.5 years). She then says that Shermeen
is going through a 'teenage infatuation," as had Maya in the teaser. So,
if Shermeen is still a teenager four-and-a-half years later, how dang
young can you be to get posted to Alpha?????
- ---Jon "Mr. Wonderful" Stadter---
- ----atomicpossum@juno.com----
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From: "Jonathan Ward" <JWard@lonet.ca>
Date: Thu, 27 Feb 1997 21:01:32 -0500
Subject: Re: Space1999: Year 2 -Reply
> Am I the only one out there who enjoys yr 2 as much as yr 1? I find
things I
> truly enjoy about each yr and things I dislike.
With this I agree. I enjoy both yrs 1& 2. Year 1 made me think, made me
question, made me fantasize.
Year 2 was action packed. It made me hyper as a kid and I still like to
watch it today.
:)
Jonathan Ward (JWard@Lonet.ca)
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