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From: djlerda@juno.com (David J Lerda)
Date: Tue, 04 Mar 1997 11:37:08 EST
Subject: Re: Space1999: Space: 1999 music in strange places
On Tue, 04 Mar 1997 08:37:42 -0500 Andre Beauchamp <relax@videotron.ca>
writes:
>
>Hi David, all !
>
>May be your LP is like mine (both labels on each sides of the record
>are inverted).
>
>If i'm the only one having that, i'm may have a piece of collection
>here !?!
>
>Andre Beauchamp
>
Actually I was listening to altape copy of the soundtrack. My original
record was trashed about 7 years ago by my mother so all I had (until
recently) was a cassette I had made at least 16 years ago. I took the
title from the label I made on the cassette so it is possible I made an
error in transcription. I would have taken the song titles from the
album jacket, not the actual record itself (i'm lazy). In any event, the
song in question is the third song on side two of the album and is an
instrumental. How the album is labelled or record is labelled I have no
idea.
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From: djlerda@juno.com (David J Lerda)
Date: Tue, 04 Mar 1997 11:37:08 EST
Subject: Re: Space1999: Space: 1999 music in strange places
On Tue, 04 Mar 1997 09:28:26 -0500 brian stearns
<brian1999@earthlink.net> writes:
>
> are you trying to say that some or most space 1999 music were used
>in porno films.so does that mean that space1999 music is good porn
>music.so a woman can do a striptease while listening to the music.
>well i have to say the music is kinda catching in y1 and y2.
>
>brian d stearns
No. Absolutely not. I was afraid this was going to happen if I made
that post. What I was saying was exactly what was posted. One track
from the Year 1 soundtrack was used as background music in a skin flick.
Do not read anything else into that statment (such as "does that mean
that space1999 music is good porn music so a woman can do a striptease
while listening to the music". I was making a statement of fact, like
"the sky is blue." not a statment like "the sky is blue so it is a good
day to go duck hunting." Do not take that statement and go off in wild
directions with it. I have difficulty understanding the tone of your
message because of the punctuaction (or lack thereof). For all I know
you may actually just be kidding.
David
David Lerda
Salisbury, Maryland, USA
djlerda@juno.com
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From: Ian Wheeler <ian@ianjames.demon.co.uk>
Date: Mon, 3 Mar 1997 19:05:54 +0000
Subject: Re: Space1999: 1st season character development
In message <2.2.16.19970303103603.25e7863c@merle.acns.nwu.edu>, ggreg
perry <ggreg@nwu.edu> writes
>it seems people label the first season acting as wooden, which is just not
>true, and the characters as underdeveloped, but i question whether this is
>even relevant in the context of first season 1999.
>
I agree with this completely. To be honest, when that guy has "a
burnout" in the Eagle after leaving Ultima Thule in "Death's Other
Dominion" is hardly "wooden", is it! This is just one example of some
strong emotions shown in the acting.
>we have here a group of people flung out into a hostile universe, completely
>at the mercy (or lack thereof) of forces beyond their control. at best, we
>can expect their emotions to be ones of fear, paranoia, nervousness or
>depression.
>
Exactly. You have to remember that in season 2, these people had settled
down with their situation, and were more ready to anticipate anything
that they come across, and to deal with it.
>just because everyone doesn't go around smiling and kissing each others
>bottoms all the time does not mean these are not interesting or real characters.
>
Erm, Yup. We saw a lot more of this in season 2 because, as I said
before, they became more accustomed to their situation. Also, remeber
that in what I'll call "1999 time", about 6 years passed during season
2, didn't it? this would have given people "sufficient time" to get used
to their situation, as I said before.
>in other words, just because we don't know a lot of background info on the
>characters, or see a lot of romantic interaction between them, just doesn't
>mean their less believable.
>
Hmm. Although, as Barry Morse said, during the 1999 documentary, even
the actors didn't get a lot of background on their characters! Still I
think that they did a good job considering, didn't they!
>so i feel this criticism is essentially invalid as far as the first season
>goes.
>sure, as a preference on could prefer more "development", but i really think
>that in this instance (first season), this is not as serious a drawback (if
>it is at all) as it may at first seem.
>
>the film 2001 was also criticized in this regard, while STAR TREK NG is
>praised to the high heavens because of it's, and i use the term loosely
>here, "character development".
>
Even ST:TNG characters seemed "wooden" during the first few episodes of
season 1, maybe except for Counselor "I feel pain, intense, pain!" Troi.
>not that STNG wasn't able to convey or fit in this type of development, but
>it was done to such an extreme, so self-consciously, that it comes off
>superficial and false.
>
I agree. It tended to lead to some very cheesy acting. I felt the worst
instance was "The Naked Now", but that was probably an attempt to inject
personality, that unfortunately overdosed just a -teeny- bit!
>i think if second season 1999 would have caried on in a normal fashion from
>first, we would have struck a perfect balance: natural development of the
>characters as they had settled in, and had finally become use to their
>situation.
>
I sometimes think what season 2 would be like if all of the elments of
season 1, (actors, styles, sets, effects, stories, etc.) had been kept.
>and there are actually many instances of this in first season: kano and
>koenig playing chess, koening and victor sitting around koenig's office
>talking, the kendo match, putting together puzzles, the "picnic" in LAST
>SUNSET, the guitar recital, birth of a child, etc.
>
>but thankfully, they are small moments and not made out to be some grand
>annoucement of "look how human our characters are".
>
Well, let's face it, we don't all act like we've come out of an episode
of "Days of our Lives", do we? (Days of our lives is an american soap by
the way, which in my opinion, is absolutely hilarious! Talk about hammy
acting!) We all act in much the same way the Alphans do. (minus the
voyaging through distant galaxies, of course.)
>thus, in closing, i feel that while one may not care for the depiction of
>said characters in their situation, i also do not think one can criticize
>the characters (or actors, since their subtle portayals are not bad acting)
>for how they were depicted.
>
>As far as I am concerned, I thought the acting was VERY good, and the
subtle touch was very convincing. The subtle touch seems to be a Bain-
Landau trademark. Any episode of Mission: Impossible proves this.
- --
Ian Wheeler
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From: "Peters, Pete" <BPeters@gwinnett.tec.ga.us>
Date: Tue, 4 Mar 1997 12:24:46 -0500
Subject: RE: Space1999: What are you doing???
>(snip)
>
>>>Woah, partner!!! What RIGHT do you have to speak for me or any of the
>other members on this list besides yourself??<<
>
>diplomacy gives me the right to try anything to get a possible source
>of gold from flying away.
>
>>>Option 4 is the mature choice.
>
>Primitive defense mechanism?? You don't know these people!! You have
>NO authority to speak about what lies behind their actions anymore than
>I do. They know what they do, YOU DON'T!<<
>
>Have you ever been trained as a teacher? Do you know about
>psychological motivations and barriers and their effect on people.
>I'll give you a perfect example: Robert and Marcy have some of the best
>net communication skills I've ever encountered, they know how to
>comport and maintain themselves even in the face of adversity. I know
>because I read every post that hits my box. They don't appear to have
>many barriers to communicating in a well adjusted adult and
>professional manner. A lot of people on this list are in lurk mode,
>but some of the most vocal are those who are not well behaved. Again I
>know because I read every post that hits my box. DON'T BE OFFENDED! if
>the shoe doesn't fit don't wear it. What was done was done for the
>good of the list as a whole.
>
>>>Look at what has transpired. This is a SPACE:1999 mailing list. The
>>>topic is SPACE:1999, and all facets of the show and its characters.
>>>A man came into the list, and claimed that there were animated
>>>episodes in Australia, episodes he had videotapes of. Because this
>>>is a SPACE:1999 mailing list, and this was something TOTALLY NEW and
>>>interesting, they wanted to know details. (Is that asking too
>>>much???)<<
>
>I read the posts. I believe although I can not quote chapter and verse
>that the man said he did not have any of the information in his
>possession, and that some other individual had it and he was
>frantically trying to round up the info and would keep us advised of
>his progress. When did this occur? 2 weeks ago at the most, yes people
>asked for more info, but people also immediately began calling it a
>hoax and the posts snowballed downhill from then on. I know I read
>more negative posts than positive and they just got worse. How do you
>think he felt just reading one negative post?
>
>Now lets look at it from the his perspective. Hey man look at what I
>found on the net!!! A Space 1999 Group!!! This is so cool. This brings
>back wonderful memories of his childhood and watching it on TV, it
>also reminds him of the awful loss of one of his treasures, his S1999
>animated episodes. Knowing that he might now be able to replace what
>he has lost, an innocent post is made. "Hey everybody I'm new can you
>tell me how I can replace my tapes on the animated Space 1999, all but
>two of mine were destroyed when I moved. Of course this excites us,
>but all are skeptical because we know everything, we're experts, we
>never heard of this before, it's not true. Yes some gave him the
>benefit of the doubt, but it should have been all of us.
>
>The potential gain of handling any situation positively until its
>conclusion no matter what the outcome is astronomical as opposed to
>burning our bridges. This list needs to practice more empathy toward
>each other and the newbee, and always assume the best until the worst
>is proven beyond any shadow of a doubt.
>
>>>Not only did the man who claimed he had the animated episodes not
>>>share any details with the list,....<<
>
>Wrong he said he did not have the info but was trying to get a hold of
>it from his friend and would make it available when he did. except for
>the tapes.
>
>>>but finally he got indignant that people didn't just believe him
>>>outright (on faith alone??)<<
>
>Mark, you of all people should never say something like this, Isn't
>faith the only thing that you have to believe in God? Give everyone
>the benefit of the doubt until proof can prove them right or wrong.
>
>>>, he first tried stalling,<<
>
>again, Wrong he said he did not have the info but was trying to get a
>hold of it from his friend and would make it available when he did. He
>did have the tape but the negative posts were before dup services were
>offered
>
>>>then resorted to public name-calling the entire 250 of us on the list.<<
>
>I agree he shouldn't have done that, but we didn't exactly maintain
>civility until we had his absolute proof. If I said my friend had the
>proof and he lived in another state how long do you think it would take
>to get here. I'm not going to do it first class when it's going to get
>here anyway forth class. Also by the time those few who would provide
>their excellent services to dup his cassettes came forward the damage
>was already done and he wanted no more to do with us.
>
>>>HIS attitude was childish.<<
>
>I agree, but telling that to his face would also have alienated him
>even further.
>
>>>Another thread came up, about a rock song called SPACE:1999. When
>>>questions were asked about it, the person who had the information put
>>>some sound clips out for all to check out. He did the right thing.
>>>He did not take offense that someone asked him about it, but his
>>>intent was to share it with the list.<<
>
>No problem, but this person had immediate access to the info. The
>everyday average Joe does not have access to video dupping equipment
>much less to VCR's to hook together to create dups, again I know
>because I am also a soundman for our church, and who do people come to
>for this type of service, you guessed it, me. No slight intended but if
>those services were offered first then none of this would have
>occurred. So a good suggestion would be to inform the person to talk
>to Gregg or some individual that could provide these services and to
>hold off list traffic until Gregg's verdict could be rendered.
>
>>PLEASE! reconsider your withdrawal from our list, you may be a great
>>asset in disguise that could bring a whole new dimension to us. I also
>>know that if you give everyone that responded negatively another chance
>>and share your treasure with us they will certainly apologize and
>>welcome you correctly.
>
>>>we're all here for one reason.....to share SPACE:1999 with others!!!<<
>
>I agree totally.
>
>>>If he doesn't want to let us look at the autographed baseball he
>>>claims he has, then he can play in another sandlot!<<
>
>Bad Attitude Man! Just Plain Bad Attitude. He didn't do anything but
>lash out with the force he decided was neccessary to counter the force
>of rejection and condemnation he perceived he was getting. No empathy.
>He had just found something he loved, would he intentionally deceive
>us? This remains to be seen and we may never get the chance.
>
>>>That's what we're here for, Pete....to share SPACE:1999!!!<<
>
>I agree more than 100% you are absolutely right!
>
>>>And again, you speak as if you are the spokesman for the entire list.
>WHERE do you get off speaking for this entire list??<<
>
>Desperate measures for the good of the list.
>
>>>>What the hell is this, the SPACE:1999 mailing list, or some
>neo-Nazi fascist fan club? You all certainly know how to make
>some one feel very UNWELCOME and I will be more than happy to tell
>my other friends who are fans to stay away from your site.<<<
>
>>>Please don't! let's start over and try to work this out.<<
>
>>>YOU want to work things out with him, fine. Take it to HIM via private
>>>email.<<
>
>>>We are so sorry, if it would please your Honor for us to throw
>ourselves on the mercy of the court. Please give us another
>chance!!!<<
>
>>>I really hope this is sarcasm. :?<<
>
>No Gregg it's not,... just some simple humor for a little damage
>management.
>
>>>Last word: You want to play in the pool, you gotta put on a swimsuit.
>Water wings are OK, but no cutoffs.<<
>
>Gregg is this really necessary? Shouldn't we treat everyone with
>respect, even when your answering an e-mail you don't agree with? Not
>agreeing doesn't mean not be civil also.
>
>Any and all comments welcome. sorry for the length and I promise to
>drop this thread now and get back to a happy Alpha. I just feel very
>strongly on matters of interaction in a polite society. Empathy,
>Tolerance and Civility.
>
>Gregg if you want to respond I'll be happy to continue privately, we've
>both had our say and I feel the list got the point. No use in filling
>up their boxes with any more mail. Thanks for the sparring! Passion
>if managed can be great fun!
>
>CADMiester Pete
>Chief of VRMDD (Virtual Reality Mechanical Design and Development)
>Alpha Moonbase
>Snellville Georgia USA
>bpeters@gwinnett.tec.ga.us
>
>
>
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From: DAllard422@aol.com
Date: Tue, 4 Mar 1997 14:38:50 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Re: Space1999: 1st season character development
I agree with you. I don't think of the characters as wooden or
underdeveloped, but as under-explained.
Breakaway should have been a two hour episode. Instead we are presente=
d
with a group of people who seem to have had no other life outside of Alph=
a.
Because of that we feel that they should have been much closer friends.
Imagine if time had allowed John to been seen off by comrades congratula=
ting
him on his getting command of Alpha. Sandra could have been seen with a
picture of her fianc=E9. Someone could have been watching home movies of=
a
picnic with their children. Then when they broke away from Earth's orbit,
their stiffness would have been interpreted as grief and not wooden actin=
g.
Slowly and subtly we are given insights into their characters. Helena =
and
John's initial distrust of each other dates back to the flashbacks in
Dragon's Domain. (Didn't Helena's professional opinion not only hurt Tony
Cellini's career, but to a degree John's?) Kano's computer is his family.
Paul's hope for a future comes out in Last Sunset. Not wooden.
Lynn
=20
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From: Robert Ruiz <R4ARUIZ@legal.pactel.com>
Date: Tue, 04 Mar 1997 13:07:32 -0800
Subject: Space1999: Cosmos Out of Alignment?
Hello all you wonderful people.
I am sitting here in my 14th floor office. It's a breezy, cool, beautiful day.
I'm staring out at the San Francisco skyline, and I've got a pot of coffee
brewing and some nice music on the CD player in my computer. I've also
got a smile on my face.
I just read Pete Peters' list post responding to Mark's, and I am just
shaking my head, looking up at the Heavens, and laughing. Why is this
happening? I don't get it. Mark is a lovely person. Pete is a lovely
person. So what's up?
Why are so many people so tense and overreacting to stuff lately? We
don't have much in the way of winter weather here in San Francisco, so
is it a seasonal thing I just can't relate to?
We were doing so well there for awhile. I didn't read anything in Pete's
e-mail that hasn't essentially been written before by others (I'm referring
to speaking on behalf of the group). What Pete wrote didn't bother me
one bit. I recently sent a letter to Valentina Fiore's family and expressed
condolences from myself and on behalf of the list members. Does
anyone mind? The intentions were good. What's the problem here?
What are so many people POUNCING on things for and making them list
issues when they are really personal issues, sometimes just
perceptions, and might better be addressed in personal e-mail anyway
(and then, preferably, in a non-confrontational, constructive manner)?
Not that I want anyone to leave or anything, but taking some time off from
the list for awhile recently was a really, really good thing for me to do,
and I'm very glad I did it. In fact, I'm thinking about doing it again soon
because I had such a great time. I'm just putting it out there as
something to think about, even if it's just three days or a week or
something (and then come on back because we'll miss you).
I don't know. Maybe it's just that it's such a BEAUTIFUL day here in San
Francisco, but it's just impossible to get worked up over this stuff. I don't
want to say "lighten up" and essentially invalidate your experience, but
can I suggest to everyone that they just maybe taking five minutes and
think before hitting that SEND button, and maybe try to think about the
thing that bothers you from another angle than your initial reaction? (I'm
saying this to everyone, not just to Mark and Pete.)
Find a mirror and smile at yourself please. Go out to coffee with
someone. See a movie. Buy some flowers. Go for a drive. Anything.
Real life is full of turmoil, and people elect to come to this list maybe to get
away from it. If there were a list called "petty irritations" would anyone
elect to become a member?
Mark, Pete, and anyone else who needs a break, come out to San
Francisco and I'll take you to coffee and we can have a good laugh over
this.
Best to you all,
Robert
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From: John@coldnorth.com (John J Fleming)
Date: Tue, 4 Mar 1997 16:16:43 -0500
Subject: Re: Space1999: question about 44" Eagle model - an answer!!
>I'd like to know if there are any other kits which are known to have
>been used to kit bash the 44" Eagles. It seems to be well known that
>the 1/24 scale Gemini kit was used, but has anyone identified any other
>kits which supplied parts to the Eagle? Also, how many 1/24 scale Gemini
>kits would you need as parts for a 44" Eagle?
Well, it depends on what Eagle you are building, all of them are
different. But you will need more parts if build E3, as compared to E1 or E2.
Just do what I'm doing.. get one good kit (with all the pieces), pull
out the RTV, and get the resin ready. Then, it doesn't matter how many you
need. You could build a full fleet!!
Later...
______________________________________________________________
John J Fleming - John@COLDNORTH.Com - Ottawa, Ontario, Canada
COLD NORTH Publishing - 1349 Leaside Avenue, Unit #3 - K1Z 7R2
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From: Andre Beauchamp <relax@videotron.ca>
Date: Tue, 04 Mar 1997 17:16:36 -0500
Subject: Re: Space1999: Cosmos Out of Alignment?
Robert Ruiz wrote:
> but
> can I suggest to everyone that they just maybe taking five minutes and
> think before hitting that SEND button, and maybe try to think about the
> thing that bothers you from another angle than your initial reaction? (I'm
> saying this to everyone, not just to Mark and Pete.)
>
> Find a mirror and smile at yourself please. Go out to coffee with
> someone. See a movie. Buy some flowers. Go for a drive. Anything.
> Real life is full of turmoil, and people elect to come to this list maybe to get
> away from it. If there were a list called "petty irritations" would anyone
> elect to become a member?
>
Hi Robert, All !
Why not suggest to that kind of person to write "Angry mode on" and
"Angry mode off"
before and after the irritating part of the letter send by them.
It would be more easier for me and a lot of us to skip those unwanted
parts of e-mails.
I don't know if i'm alone, but i work four days(12 hours each) in a row
each week,
when i come home, i go in a hurry if front of my PC (power switch always
to ON) to read
all those E-mails (around 40 a day) to learn more and read more
instructive text about
my favorite show Space 1999, instead of that, 80% of the mail received
is about
comparaison between Star-Trek and Space 1999, or frustrating letters
between list members.
I don't care about Star-Trek, Star-Wars, Lost in space and all that
stuff, maybe only the
UFO serie because it's the same producer, i would like to receive
instructive letters
on my favorite show, letters like the (huge) one send about F.FREIBERGER
and the transition
between Y1 and Y2, even small letters like the one i just received this
morning on the 44 inches
model eagle and the plastic parts taken from the Gemini space module.
You know what at my eyes is the magic part of Space 1999 ?
After nuclear war on earth, people from many countries, religions and
races learned to live
together and peacefully on a Moonbase. Why don't we take that as an
exemple ?
BTW : there was no "Angry mode on" in this letter, only my point of view
!
Andre Beauchamp
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From: "MIKE GRYGO" <GROG@erie.net>
Date: Tue, 4 Mar 1997 17:11:47 -0500
Subject: Re: Space1999: Cosmos Out of Alignment?
Get away from the computer. Get out more often.
Boy, I wish I would have thought of that. And speaking
from experience, they call my town "Dreary-Erie";
we have something like only 60 clear, cloudless days
a year; sometimes our winter storms from Canada
can last weeks! Weeks without sun! Snow. Overcast.
More snow. Come in San Francisco! This is Ultima Thule!
Oh bugger-it! We've lost their signal.....
Remind me to tell you of my one and only day in
San Francisco; it would have made a fine Sienfeld.
grog@erie.net
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From: "MIKE GRYGO" <GROG@erie.net>
Date: Tue, 4 Mar 1997 17:19:59 -0500
Subject: Re: Space1999: question about 44" Eagle model - an answer!!
I just recently purchased a Mattel Eagle without dolls.
If it's any help to others in this situation, I found that
the Lunar Module model kit that was re-issued in recent
years is on the correct scale with this. They fit perfect in
the seats! Also, look for bags of spacemen with a moon
buggy, shuttle or Apollo rocket; these are usually made in
China. Anyway, the moon men are in different postions and
are also about the same scale. An inexpensive solution
as you can pick them up for a bag for a buck or two at
bargain, "Dollar-Saver" type stores.
grog@erie.net
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From: atomicpossum@juno.com (Jonathon P Stadter)
Date: Tue, 04 Mar 1997 18:39:34 EST
Subject: Re: Space1999: Cosmos Out of Alignment?
On Tue, 04 Mar 1997 13:07:32 -0800 Robert Ruiz <R4ARUIZ@legal.pactel.com>
writes:
>Why are so many people so tense and overreacting to stuff lately? We
>don't have much in the way of winter weather here in San Francisco, so
>is it a seasonal thing I just can't relate to?
I think that could be part of it....My wife's place of employment
was always a pretty happy place, until the last few months when people
seem to start hoping for vicious and cruel things to happen to one
another, so much so that she has begun keeping her eye out for another
job...
>We were doing so well there for awhile. I didn't read anything in
>Pete's
>e-mail that hasn't essentially been written before by others (I'm
>referring
>to speaking on behalf of the group). What Pete wrote didn't bother me
>one bit. I recently sent a letter to Valentina Fiore's family and
>expressed
>condolences from myself and on behalf of the list members. Does
>anyone mind? The intentions were good. What's the problem here?
Well, I think part of the problem here was that offering an apology
for something someone else said is rather likely to irritate the person
who said it in the first place, bring them to the reaction of "Hey,
buddy, I meant what I said, otherwise I wouldn't have said it, who are
you to retract MY opinion?"
To offer condolences to a family on the loss of a loved one doesn't
offer one person's opinion (which is what it is, after all) being given
as another's.
>What are so many people POUNCING on things for and making them list
>issues when they are really personal issues, sometimes just
>perceptions, and might better be addressed in personal e-mail anyway
>(and then, preferably, in a non-confrontational, constructive manner)?
Part of the problem is that people aren't realizing that something
in one person's post is simply THAT PERSON's opinion--too many of us are
taking something in one e-mail as though it is a rule someone is imposing
upon us, such as opinions on Y2 or Star Trek or whatever.
The point is to view it as someone expressing an opinion that does
not agree with yours, not expressing an opinion that is expected to
become yours. If I state this thing or that, you should realize that you
still haven't, so don't overreact and start calling names or raving about
how wrong I am. If you want to reply, reply, but there's no need to
either a) call names, or b) go on a rambling tear about how idiotic that
opinion is.
REMEMBER: Just because someone says a thing, it doesn't make it so.
If someone disagrees with something I post, fine, my look at it is just
"Poor guy, how can he be so wrong?" :-) I may even reply, but simply
taking an opinion that is different from yours is not an attack--I
suggest using the same attitude.
HOWEVER, if someone replies with "How dumb are you?" or "What kind
of moron would think that?" or "This just shows your logic is impaired,"
that is going from a simple expression of a differing view to a need to
belittle the person you disagree with.
There are two different lines up in the header at the top of this
e-mail, one is for the person who sent it, the other is what it is about.
TALK ABOUT THE SUBJECT, NOT ABOUT THE PERSON SENDING IT. For instance,
you can say "Jon, I can' t agree with you less," or "Jon, I can't agree
with you less, you filthy piece of distended rectum (can you name that
one, Marcy?)." One is on subject, the other one is on ME. Which,
naturally, tends to make me want to reply in kind. In the interest of
sparing us all ulcers, can we all watch this a little more in the future?
- ---Jon "Mr. Wonderful" Stadter---
- ----atomicpossum@juno.com----
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From: Orbiter <rcox@intergate.bc.ca>
Date: Tue, 04 Mar 1997 16:15:47 -0800
Subject: Re: Space1999: question about 44" Eagle model - an answer!!
At 10:08 AM 3/4/97 -0500, you wrote:
Thanks for the info, John. Hope I am fortunate to run across a 44" Eagle
for sale at a convention somewhere.
>
> The 44" Eagle that everone is talking about is the studio models used
>on the show. When the model maker made them, they used bits and pieces from
>various places (kit bashed). Now, after 20 years, those of us who are
>building 44" Eagles, and want to be acurate, are looking for the kits they
>used to bash. There is no 44" Eagle kit (yet). They also made 22" Eagles,
>11" Eagles, and a few 5.5" ones as well. There are no kits of these either
>(yet). With the exception of the 11", wich is actualy 12". Thats the
>FunDimensions kit, which needs lots of work to make it look anything like a
>good Eagle kit. See Fine Scale Modeler, November 1996/ ICD 08285,
>"Space:1999" - Detailing the Eagle.
>
> The 1/24 and 1/48 scale Gemini kits supply alot of the little itty
>bitty detail parts. And this detail is different on each and every model.
>So, building an acurate version requires knowing what studio Eagle you are
>looking at, and picking just one of them to build. Or, do like I'm doing,
>and build Eagle 4 (there was 3 44" studio Eagles, #3 being the Metemorph
>Eagle). This way, if the detail doesn't EXACTLY match 1,2 or 3, I won't,
>hopefuly, be hunted down and killed by the modeling purists. :-)
>
> Hope that helps you out.
>
>
>Later...
>
>
>______________________________________________________________
>John J Fleming - John@COLDNORTH.Com - Ottawa, Ontario, Canada
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From: Robert Ruiz <R4ARUIZ@legal.pactel.com>
Date: Tue, 04 Mar 1997 16:29:45 -0800
Subject: Space1999: Feel Free to Ask
Andre Beauchamp writes:
> ...read all those E-mails (around 40 a day) to learn more
> and read more instructive text about my favorite show
> Space 1999, instead of that, 80% of the mail received is
> about comparaison between Star-Trek and Space 1999,
> or frustrating letters between list members.
Hi Andre/All:
One of the things that's happening here is that many of us have already
discussed the show to death so there's not much more for many of us to
say unless something new comes up or some event takes place, and
comparisons to Star Trek have been going on since Space: 1999 was
first launched.
For me the Cybrary was a good way to make my knowledge base
available to others, and a lot of that information was hard won. For
instance, just to get an accurate episode production order took almost a
full year of painstaking and time consuming research and comparisons of
various reference material, but I feel proud that now anyone can just go
to my page and print one out (which is MUCH easier than it was for me to
research it).
The Cybrary is currently only about one-quarter of what I plan it to be,
the rest of it is waiting for time to do the various pages that I have
planned to fill it out, and more than anything else it's image manipulation
that takes the most time.
If you and other newer people read the FAQ and still have questions or
comments, feel free to jump right in and ask questions or state your
views. Lurkers too. Sometimes it takes a lurker or newbie to revive the
list and make it interesting again for us all.
Robert
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From: "Phillip C. Merkel" <captphil@unix.asb.com>
Date: Tue, 4 Mar 1997 20:05:02 -0500
Subject: Re: Space1999: I-Con
At 01:23 AM 3/4/97 -0500, you wrote:
>Hi Alphans!
>
>>Also in April I'll be at I-Con in Stony Brook NY the first weekend in April.
>>http://www.iconsf.org/
>
>I'm sorry I can't be there! I have such memories of this. Not only did I
>attend every year, but had a full house of Prydonians (Doctor Who fan club
>Prydonians of Prynceton) as houseguests since I lived 10 minutes away from
>Stony Brook.
Its a shame that our paths never crossed MArcy, actually maybe you did see
me once.
I played piano for Anthony Ainsley (The 2nd MASTER) when he was the Doctor
Who Guest of honor. He was very nice to me, autographed everything I set in
front of him and sang "One" from A Chorus Line. Much fun. That might have
been the year I paid people to go online to get Harlan Ellisons Autograph
for me because I was so busy with the piano playing and such.
Again to the list my eyes will be scanning for signs of Anderson activity at
the con. ALso I might be doing some video taping of the media guests if
anyone wants a copy. (Depends if I'm allowed and how much I want to lug my
camera + tons of books around the Stony Brook campus in the rain) BTW if
always rains.
LAst year we did have the Anderson video room, a toy moonbuggy on card and
the 1999 card set from Donruss at the dealers room. + a bunch of Captain
Scarlet toys and Thunderbirds toys. Oh I also remeber seeing Sylvia
Andersons Bio Yes M'Lady and the UFO/1999 book from boxtree. I've since
obtain that book from the UK bookpages web site.
Phil M
captphil@unix.asb.com
Currently reading: Star Trek Phase II by Judith and Garfield Reeves-Stevens
(Okay, Star Trek is a guilty pleasure, don't tell anyone shhhhhh!)
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