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From: aritz1622@juno.com (Anthony J Ritz)
Date: Sun, 09 Mar 1997 22:06:44 EST
Subject: Re: Space1999: OT: Prayer request
>you guys are part of my "extended family" and I wanted to include
>you in on something that's going on right now with me.
Mark,
I am so sorry to hear about your mother. My prayers are with her,
yourself, and your family. Thank You for what you said about us
being part of your extended family, for you are certainly part of
mine.
>I don't know a lot about congestive heart failure, except that it's
water
>on the lungs that causes the heart to stop, and the condition can go on
for
>years. Can anybody out there provide some more information for me?
There are some physicians on the list with a far better understanding of
this than mine. But I will give you the knowledge I have from being a
fire
fighter emergency medical tech. I have posted this to the list just in
case anyone else has questions about Congestive Heart Failure (CHF).
CHF is not a death sentence. I have seen many patients live and
deal with CHF and still lead eventful and meaningful lives. But without
saying, CHF has to be addressed, and it is necessary to have a good
understanding of it, just in case a situation is to arise. Mark, I am
also
sending you privately a couple of articles explaining better the long
term effects of, and having to live with it. If anyone else wants these,
please email me personally, and I will send them out to you also.
The following taken from the book 'Prehospital Emergency Care.'
Congestive Heart Failure results when the heart's pumping output does
not meet the needs of bodily tissues; i.e., perfusion is inadequate.
While
there are a number of causes, the most common include myocardial
infarction (heart attack), hypertention (high blood pressure), chronic
obstructive pulmonary disease, coronary artery disease, and heart valve
damage.
Congestive Heart Failure usually develops after damage to the left
ventricle of the heart, which subsequently loses it's ability to contract
forcefully. As a result, the amount of blood pumped out to the body is
reduced, and the blood gradually backs up into the left atrium of the
heart. In response to the reduced output and the increased pressure
from the backup, the heart enlarges and speeds up it's rate in order
to pump adequate volumes of blood. When these compensations no
longer work, Congestive Heart Failure develops.
As CHF progresses, fluid builds up behind the failing left heart, in the
pulmonary network (blood passage ways dealing with the lungs).
This creates a situation called pulmonary edema, or the lungs filling
with plasma/fluid from the capillaries of the lungs. As a result of
this, pink frothy sputum may be coughed up (a severe sign of
pulmonary edema). If not corrected, severe respiratory distress
(shortness of breath) follows. This is life threatening and requires
immediate care. Also as the left ventricle of the heart fails, the right
will also become nonfunctional.
I changed and elaborated on this the best I could so someone who
has not taken Anatomy and Physiology could understand it.
If anyone has any further questions, please feel free to ask.
Take Care Everyone
And Especially You, Mark
Tony
___________________________________________________________
Anthony J. Ritz
ARitz1622@Juno.Com
Wilmington IL USA
ARtiz1622@Sprintmail.Com
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From: stone12@ix.netcom.com (Greg R Stone)
Date: Sun, 9 Mar 1997 21:11:16 -0600 (CST)
Subject: Space1999: Space:1999 Midi files
Hello, All.
I got onto the Space:1999 themes site and downloaded the
"ZIP" file, filled with icons and lots of other neat stuff, but
there were supposed to be the first year's theme in .MID format,
and I cannot seem to locate them at all. Does anyone have a copy
of the main theme, and ending theme in MIDI format? If you do,
could you PLEASE e-mail me back, and just attach it?
Also, someone mentioned a "Eagle flying simulator" that
was operating on a "Gerry Anderson Site". I got onto the Gerry
Anderson site thru Marcy's site, and couldn't find anything!
Maybe I'm just being senile at an early age or something, but
I couldn't find anything.....H E L P !!!! :0
Greg Stone
STONE12@IX.NETCOM.COM
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From: stone12@ix.netcom.com (Greg R Stone)
Date: Sun, 9 Mar 1997 21:14:03 -0600 (CST)
Subject: Re: Space1999: Earthfall
You wrote:
>
>Salute Omnes,
>
><< 'EARTHFALL' by E C TUBB. >>
>>I think its safe to say- a lot of people are searching for this one.
>
>I know very little about public libraries in North America, but hasn't
>anyone tried their local libraries?
>
>I know for a fact that several local library authorities bought
>Space:1999 novels here in the UK, and although not many are left in
>circulation, I have seen the odd one floating about. I recall a
couple
>of years back ordering Earthfall from a Lancashire local library. I
>wasn't too struck on it myself, but I have read it, nonetheless.
>
>Just a suggestion. Once my library card is free of all the stuff on
it,
>the Central Library in Birmingham owes me a search or two. Someone
>remind me in about a month or so, and I'll see what I can find.
>
>Later,
>----------------------------------------------------------------------
>Brian Dowling - Birmingham, England
Hey, Brian (and everyone else)
Why doesn't someone with a scanner, take the several
Space:1999 books, and just scan them all into a nice little
text file? I'm sure that Marcy would love to have those on
her board for all to read, and share!
I saw someone doing that with the Star Trek books
on a ST site, and I thought, maybe that's what we need here.
Just a thought, Greg Stone
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From: Trent Bates <tbates@inorbit.com>
Date: Sun, 09 Mar 1997 06:45:23 -0800
Subject: Re: Space1999: OT:Project UFO episodes.
Allen Michael Retodo wrote:
>
> Anyone know where I can get episodes of Jack Webb's Project UFO?
>
I have part of an episode recorded on an audio cassette. I'd love to see
the series again! Anyone else have any info?
- --
"Happiness is not having what you want, but wanting what you have!"
tbates@inorbit.com
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From: "Amberwolf (Michael Elliott)" <ambrwolf@ix.netcom.com>
Date: Sun, 09 Mar 1997 20:40:59 -0700
Subject: Re: Space1999: PAL to NTSC (OT)
In reply to the quote below, a friend of mine who dubs video says he has
a deck by AIWA that he bought at Incredible Universe that plays NTSC and
PAL....I will find out the model number later, and more details (incl.
company address, etc.)
HOTROD4000@aol.com wrote:
>
> I had a long conversation with a friend of mine who just happens to be an
> electronics engineer. The subject came up about the UK's PAL format and if
> there were any video units out on the market today that could play both PAL
> and NTSC formatted tapes. He told me no but the demand for such a unit is
> increasing every day and he says that it's VERY possible that a unit will be
> manufactured sometime in the next 2 or 3 years. The starting price is the
> problem he forsees. In order to play two different formats, (not at the same
> time mind you), you would basicly have two "VCR's" in one. Kind of like the
> current dual cassette VCR's out on the market now by "Go Video". The price
> would be close to that which is currently running between $700 - $800. You
> would be able to play any format because actually you would have two VCR's,
> One PAL compatable and one NTSC compatable and you could record from one to
> the other just as you would with 2 NTSC VCR's.
>
> I just thought that maybe ya'll would be interested in this information. I'll
> keep my ears out for further development and I'll let you know.
>
> Thanks for taking the time to read this "Off Topic" subject,
>
> Rodney (HOTROD4000@aol.com)
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From: David Welle <dwelle@online.dct.com>
Date: Mon, 10 Mar 1997 00:18:53
Subject: Space1999: Duties/Roles; Oh, the Stress of Being an Alphan! (was Y2: Top/Bottom Five)
Hello! Hope you find this interesting....
At 09:38 AM 03/06/97 -0800, you wrote:
>
>the little human moment of Bill Fraser taking Maya and Helena
>closer to the planet and risking his own life, etc.
I liked that moment, and many others, as well. Shows the
>The only thing I have a problem with in The Immunity Syndrome is the
>voice characterization of the actor playing the entity. It's not compelling.
You know what? You may have just found what I couldn't put my finger
on--the thing that led me to feeling disappointed at the end of what had
been a very strong episode to that point. I'll have to listen more to the
actor's voice characterization next time I watch the episode.
>Someone noted in recent months that these lines sounded silly (lines like
>"I am I..."). I think this is actually a very interesting way to have an
alien
>speak (the words).
It *was* interesting, which is why I was confused when I ended up feeling
disappointed by the alien. The words are interesting because the alien is
coming from a very different context: a sort of loneliness where it hadn't
even known about other sentient beings. Its perception is so different, of
course it's going to think and thus speak in a rather different way, even
with its apparent abilities to blast (unknowingly) into people's minds.
It's been awhile since I've seen this episode, though. I'll have to pay
closer attention the next time I watch it.
>I agree with David about the problem with Helena and Maya basically
>abandoning Alpha and their responsibilities, though. That's why a
>character like Paul Morrow is such a good character to have, so you can
>leave someone in charge but let the stars go off and play.
I agree. Tony took over the role of first officer, but by then, the duties
were changed. This is certainly not unusual. Duties of a title often do
get changed. In Tony's case, he was on missions so often (including in
"Immunity Sydrome"), that it wasn't the quite the same role as Paul's had
been. Not that Paul didn't get out (e.g. "The Last Sunset"); but in Y2,
they did not consistently keep one certain officer behind on base, as they
did in ST: The Next Generation. Y1 came close, but they never really made
a point of it, like STNG did, and drifted away from the idea for Y2, which
instead varied who went on missions, and who stayed behind; and in
"Immunity Syndrome", just about everyone ended up on the planet.
>what Gene Rodenberry planned for ST:TNG with Picard and Riker. Riker
>would take off to the planets and Picard would stay on the ship.
>Because Patrick Stewart is such a compelling actor, however, it didn't
>work out that way.
That *is* the difficulty--and certainly not for just ST. How long can you
keep the characters--any characters in any series--consistently restricted
to the ship or base or wherever? Sure, Picard or Paul maybe should stay on
the ship or base as "standard operating procedure" (SOP), but you don't get
to see the full range of the character or actor that way. So it's real
tempting to vary the situation. I like seeing things stirred up that way,
as long as it is handled well, and used sparingly. Occasional changes are
okay, but if you're going to change the SOP of a character (e.g. making a
base officer become a field officer not just once or twice, but at every
turn), you ought to make a visible point--within an episode--of showing
that his/her job definition is being formally changed, through promotion,
or transfer, or some other means of changing/adding duties in a visible,
formal manner.
With Paul and Tony, however, their job definitions were obviously different
anyway. Paul was consistently a base officer; and Tony was obviously
called upon to be both a base officer and a field officer from the
beginning, depending on the situation and what kind of personnel were most
needed. Tony was either more flexible, or--and perhaps more likely--it was
because everyone had to be more flexible, given Alpha's small and ever
decreasing pool of qualified people. A doubling up of some duties makes
perfect sense in that regard. It also required having other characters
ready to take up certain duties more often, as needed. With the loss of
Paul, Victor, Kano, and Tanya (for whatever reason), Alpha got awfully thin
on officers all of a sudden, and even with new personnel, shuffling of
duties between several positions was probably necessary.
But speaking of the last points, it wasn't quite that simple. In
production terms, some of those characters were often brought in because
time constraints forced doubling up of some episodes, which lead to the
main cast being split between those episodes; and having less of the main
cast in any single one of those episodes means you have to have other cast
"brought in." In some cases, these secondary recurring characters worked
out okay (e.g. Fraser and to some degree Alibe, IMO), but other times, were
very non-descript replacements (e.g. Vincent) or outright poor (e.g.
Yasko), IMHO.
So while the varying roles would make sense in the context of an
ever-dwindling pool of qualified people, and having to train and use
others, it could lead to some power vacuums, or just poor story when the
main characters were spread too thin. Personally, when they "doubled-up",
I *missed* having Maya or Koenig or Tony or whoever around. That's why I
call this the "half cast" problem. I *do* like having strong secondary,
recurring characters around as well, as it builds up the cast and can lead
to even more interesting stories--but *not* as outright replacement for so
many main characters that go missing in several episodes.
One character missing here or there is one thing--say s/he is on vacation
or whatever and subtly show how the other characters re-orient their
approaches to temporarily "fill in" the missing character's role. It *is*
interesting to see this flexibility, when it's done well. But so many
episodes, many with two or three or even most main characters missing?
But yet, it curiously added something convincing in its own way, *showing*
how the mounting personnel losses were hurting Alpha, spreading its talent
thin and forcing other people to step forward and learn new roles faster
than they were sometimes able. Without the remaining officers being able
to adapt to varying situations, and other personnel being able and willing
to step forward into new roles/duties, Alpha would have been in even worse
shape.
IMO, Alpha is far from the happy place it might mean at the surface, and
they are, IMO, only laughing and joking to hide their own fears and
feelings of loss. The last statement is only what I've read in myself, of
course, but does it ring true? Koenig was on the edge of nervous breakdown
in Y2--or could be easily pushed to the appearance of it by outside
forces--as much as in Y1. Maya always seemed to be hiding her pain, but it
occasionally broke through to the surface, despite her own efforts to keep
it inside. Tony was consistently hyper and often paranoid (though not
necessarily without cause :-).
With mounting losses that were even cutting into command personnel, Koenig
must have had more than a few sleepless nights over the years, trying to
use his remaining people in varying ways (without completely them out), and
trying to get other people trained for things they really weren't used to
doing, even to the point where some people were barely qualified at all
when first thrown into new duties. Alpha had to continually adapt, and was
in a sense even closer to the edge than ever before.
And what about away missions? How many key personnel do you spare? Notice
the wording... "spare." Koenig had to be careful not to commit too many
key personnel into dangerous, life-threatening situations. Yet, it's often
the most qualified people that *must* be sent into a situation, to have any
hope actually resolving a situation successfully! And when you have so few
people to start with, it is that much more difficult of a situation. Do
you get aggresive and send more, or be conservative to protect what little
you have left? Do you take the risk of losing people, or risk losing the
battle? Each situation is different, too.
This really put Alpha on even more of a knife's edge.
Now, would any of you want to be commander when you have to go through the
torment of such decisions everytime some situation happens? What would you
do to keep yourself from going insane under such constant pressure?
And what about everyone else? Fewer people around to do the same amount of
working, taking on new duties without necessarily being able to release
their old duties to anyone else. More stress, exhaustion, burn-out, even
psychological problems leading down the road to outright insanity? These
people had to find more and more outlets, come together as a community,
lighten their mood whenever possible to keep themselves from going
nuts--whatever they could do to help themselves not only survive, but
survive with their sanity as well.
Even if you shut down certain things on Alpha, or automate them (partially
or fully), you're still fighting a war just to keep up with everything,
with fewer and fewer people. And the damage they keep sustaining keeps
lowering their capacity to the point they can't even afford to have
children other than Jackie Crawford (and maybe a few others), necessary as
that is in the long run. But even if they *could* have children, it would
be years before they could help in the most rudimentary ways.
Can you imagine being Koenig, watching the base slide closer and closer to
doom as it keeps losing people, forcing even greater use of those present?
Can you imagine being Koenig, and having to cope with this reality every
time another person is lost, on top of your own grief for having lost yet
another crew member and maybe friend? Or imagine being the other officers,
constantly pulling extra duties? Or the new officer-trainee types (Alibe,
etc.) having to make decisions affecting people you call your friends? Or
all the other people getting shifted into new duties, often without being
able to forsake old duties?
These are but a few aspects of Alpha's bind, one which Y2 ended up
portraying in some rather unexpected ways, in my opinion.
Opinions, anyone? Sound like fun? Was it as bad as I made it sound? If
so, what would you do if you were in Koenig's position, or Tony's, Maya's,
Helena's, Alan's, or someone else's? What would you do if you were
watching Alpha slip into deeper danger as its population gets depleted over
the course of what we call Y1 and then Y2 as well?
Thoughts?
Thanks for your patience and interest in actually reading this far... <G>
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From: The Littl Shynin Man <labromm@unixg.ubc.ca>
Date: Sun, 09 Mar 1997 22:54:18 -0800
Subject: Space1999: Yr 1 CD - the list so far.
Here are all those who've sent me mail asking for a copy when the thing
finally gets made:
bjscannell@sprynet.com
JSchill824@aol.com
BPeters@gwinnett.tec.ga.us
JWard@Lonet.ca
os2guy@one.net
GROG@erie.net
avril.hardy@controls.eurotherm.co.uk
BABCOM@aol.com
brian1999@earthlink.net
Eurothug@aol.com
ggreg@nwu.edu
mcevoyc@rcsn.nb.ca
darrin@climax.prestel.co.uk
djlerda@juno.com
HNoll@t-online.de
mk@wizard.com
stone12@ix.netcom.com
anders@imneverwrong.com
StarParty@aol.com
Rmorale@harthosp.org
That's exactly 20 people. Anyone not on the list that wants a CD,
please get a message to me (<labromm@unixg.ubc.ca>). I'm going to go
ahead and get set up for this, and if your name's not here, we won't
have a disc for you.
Gentle Mike
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From: The Littl Shynin Man <labromm@unixg.ubc.ca>
Date: Sun, 09 Mar 1997 23:03:56 -0800
Subject: Space1999: Dinky Eagles
Hi all,
I've got two new-condition Eagles by Dinky, models 359 and 360, the
Eagle Freighter and Transporter. Both are in the boxes, which are
slightly faded and the plastic shells are slightly dented. The
Transporter still has intact the red wet-transfer decals that make the
transport pod into a rescue pod. They're still on the original card,
never applied.
I'm offering them for sale, preferably to a member of the list or other
ardent S1999 fan. I'm open to offers, as long as they're reasonable.
Cheers,
Gentle Mike
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From: "Mark Meskin" <plastic.gravity@newrock.com>
Date: Tue, 2 Jan 1996 01:06:35 -0600
Subject: Space1999: Robert Ashley Ruiz: Please Read
Good Evening All,
Ive spent quite a few hours devouring my mail messages
from my week away from the fold, and Ive done a little
research into my old AOL files(I still have the
E-Mail). I sorta feel like an armchair detective, I'm
trying to piece together the mystery of what happened
to Robert Ashley Ruiz.
As most of you know Robert blew up at the list this
week sometime I believe on Friday. I came home
expecting all kinds of cool messages in mailboxes,
instead I got spam. "Now hold on a minute" you say,
"we don't need any more trouble on this list!" Ah,
let me continue. I usually scan for messages from
people I know well first, and Roberts get read often
early. After reading his series of messages, I was
truly pissed off! Here's the main who preaches
decency and civilty spouting off to every one like a
damn water cannon. I wanted to fire off a blistering
reply to him, telling him what a real Jerk he was.
Then I scanned through the rest of the mail, a lot of
unhappy posts, but nothing extremely out of the order,
for this list anyway(don't believe me, Ive spent the
night reviewing our history, this happens on a
periodic basis, and does on many mailing lists). Now
I was even more annoyed.
Please allow me to explain this. Robert is my
friend(and I hope he still is after this) and yet Ive
become very suspicious of his demeanor of late. When
I was new to this list over 2 years ago Robert was
very kind too me explaining things, and defended me to
other list members. Early on I sent a "screw U" to
Ermes Venistti(later Ermes Mercury)because I
misunderstood his message due to Ermes somewhat tenous
grasp of English and my ignorance of this fact.
Robert sent me a message explaining what I had failed
to grasp, and sent another message to Ermes also
explaining it to him. I felt so foolish. During this
time on the list we had
NicktheDick@masterpeice.ofannoyance.com running
around. And then there was the Dud. Ronald Dudley
that is. They caused so much grief on the list.
Robert was there at every message trying to make
peace with them. Eventually Robert blew up at Nick
on;line(which everyone was doing) dropping to the same
level as Nick. Finally Nick got booted off the Net.
Then the DUD came to fill his shoes. Dudley was sorta
normal at first, but gradually he began to eat up the
bandwith, spouting his Oliver Stone of Space
philosophy. He started the Holy War. The DUD draged
personal fights back onto the list. He would sent
harrasing E-mail to people who didn;t agree with him
constanly. SFcafeguy@AOL.com(Robert Ruiz) had
enough, he left the list. I'm not trying to sound
sappy or goofy here, but I was sad that someone who
had such great posts was leaving because of this Jerk.
I still herd from him now and then. The list
traffic wasreally down from all the fighting. Our
list traffic dropped to about 4-9 messages a day.
Pretty pathetic. Dudley sorta drifted away, and
gradually we've become a community again. Robert
Ruiz returned to the list.
Fast Foward to Fall of '96:::::::::::::::::::::
Robert Ashley Ruiz is hard at work on the Cybray, he
is responding to every post, and still has time to go
to work, and work on his web site. Along comes
SiskoKid@aol.com, he is eager to prove himself the
most childish newcomer on the list. Once again
Robert Ruiz is right in the middle. Siskokid was a
brat, and foul mouthed. But Robert resorted to
Siskokid tactics and burned him online about his
behaviour. At this point I sent a private E-mail to
Robert, asking why he needed to bring this crap back
onto the mailing list. Amazingly, I get a blistering
reply from Mr. Ruiz telling me I don;t know what the
hell I'm talking about. At the time I ignored it and
sent a simple reply------ "we will speak of this no
More". Siskokid eventaully disappears.
I recount these things to you all hoping you will see
what I am seeing. Then comes the mailing list
change. Robert is everywhere on answers to
topics(where does he find time) . Every now and then
you can see this is too much for one person, and we
arrive at Today. He blows up again. I could
recount all this in detail but I'm sure youve all had
too much of this already.
Ive read what happenned with Mike Perry, Mike
Meredith, Mark E., Mike Grygro, and all the others.
I have to say to some degree I agree with these
Gentlemen. Robert is way too involved in the list.
He has put too much of himself in this list. No man
or woman should be expected to do so much and not have
it affect them. But Robert, you were wrong.
Inadverntently you've become somewhat like those
people you bitch about. I think you need to just let
some of this crap slide. Ive gone through all that
happened this week, and when you read them as a whole
its clear that Roberts bitching clearly escalated
hostilities.
12:15 a.m.
I'm starting to get tired now, and I don't have the
energy anymore to make this post as detailed as
possible, so I'll try to speed it up.
Now the flip side.
As I said Ive been researching posts, and guess what?
Mike Meredith and Nick sound and awfull lot alike! If
I were Robert, I'd be going nuts too. Please see the
messages below to see what I mean.
From Nick
In a message dated 96-04-05 13:58:56 EST
>There are some people I like and respect on this
group because in spite
>of my gruff nature have decided I am human and very
okay. To you I thank
>you. Do not bother sending notes back to this
address, it will not exist
>after today. (those of you I have promised to keep in
contact with, I
>will give you a new address) All you notes will be
bounced back. Goodbye
>to this newsgroup which has said goodbye to a really
great opportunity.
>Yes, as I have mentioned before, I wanted to see how
this group would
>treat me before I revealed who my dad was. (if you
had known, my box
>would have been even more swamped than ever, that's
why I didn't say
>anything) But my dad was one of the people who worked
behind the scenes
>on Space:1999. I'll admit, he wasn't one of the
greatly important folks
>on the show, but, he does have a lot of interesting
stories of having
>met the stars of the show, and some other interesting
tidbits, including
>observations on Freddy Freiberger. Also granted, my
dad was not even
>with the show for a full year, but he WAS there.
Well, looks like I'll
>be sharing him with another fan group instead. Bye
all!
Now Mike
You know, I was a big fan of SPACE:1999 and
thought it would be neat
to talk to other fans, and maybe get some help
in finding
replacements for some episodes of the Animated
Series I don't have
anymore. Instead of help, I have rec'd
accusation, recrimination and threats.
People have called me a liar and demanded that I
send my two last
episodes to them for verification.
What the hell is this, the SPACE:1999 mailing
list, or some neo-Nazi
fascist fan club? You all certainly know how to
make some one feel
very UNWELCOME and I will be more than happy to
tell my other friends
who are fans to stay away from your site.
Point of fact! There ARE animated episodes. I
don't really care if
you believe me or not, because I have seen them
and enjoyed them.
There IS a supplement to the Technical Notebook.
In case you are
interested I have the ISBN, the synopses numbers
at the top of each
page, publication date, etc.
I would've been more than happy to fax the guide
to anyone who wanted
them or send copies of the videos if I had been
met with the slightest
bit of kindness. Instead I was met with
suspicion and rudeness.
To all those that were even a little bit nice to
me like Horst and
another U.S. Navy Sailor and a few others whose
names I forget - thank
you for very much. To everyone else, you
obviously wouldn't know
courtesy if it beat you on the head.
With this said, I ask the list administrator to
please
UNSUBSCRIBE1999
Creepy, hey? I'm not saying these two are the same
person, but Ive sent private E-mail to Mike about this
and I hope he replies. I'm very curious. Which
brings me to my point. Why does this keep happening.
I think Robert believes this list is being harassed
purposely from outside, and after tonites research I
think he's right. I don't just mean the Nick?Mike
thing either. We have way too many unwilling
subscribers. We also have tailor made jerks that
pop up from time to time. And each time Robert's in
the thick of it. I'm gratefull, that Robert is such a
vigorous defender of the list, but this is taking too
much of toll on him. The solution: the delete Key.
Robert you need to delete these posts, I do. Bye the
way, delete this one too! You also need to stop going
after people so much on list. It galls me that you
chastise others for there foul mouth and cruel words,
and then you drop to their level. Youre not the list
moderator. This is the damn Internet! Its chaotic by
its very nature. John Boomershine used to make fun
of these people. You swear and curse at them.
That's like fanning the fire. On another list we had
a jerk named Kev Kwan. He's rude, arrogant, cruel,
and sometimes brilliant. But he was killing the list
with his crud. I made a one sentence post about his
demanor,"Well, at least he's honest about being a
prick". He unravelled right before our eyes and
unsubscribed(although I suspect he's back and
lurking). I thought I'd gone too far, but it was
just enough without dropping to his level to get this
guy to leave. What I'm trying to say is share the
burden Robert, youve turned the list into a one man
crusade.
Roberts done so much for space:1999 on the Internet,
I'd hate to lose him for good.
Well, Ive probably made the sitiuation worse, but IMHO
someone had to say it.
Goodnite,
- -Mark
Creator of "EAGLE ONE"
Look for the 'beta' release soon! I'm almost there...
plastic.gravity@newrock.com
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From: AlphaPilot@aol.com
Date: Mon, 10 Mar 1997 03:38:16 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Re: Space1999: Nick Tate on "FX"
Hi Greg,
I saw Nick when he was first on F/X a few months ago. I now live in England
and they don't show the series over here. It was really great to see Nick
again in front of the screen. He has been doing voice overs in LA for years.
I also belong to his fan club here in Birmingham England and they keep me up
to date on Nick's career. I agree with you about seeing all the stars of the
show now.
See ya, Celia Fraticelli
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From: "SHANE CROZIER" <scrozier@iinet.net.au>
Date: Mon, 10 Mar 1997 19:46:27 +0800
Subject: Re: Space1999: PAL to NTSC (OT)
Hello RODNEY, All,
VCR's such as you was discribed here already exist, unfortunately these are
sold in PAL Countries ( where we have NTSC playback on PAL VCR's )
I understand that NTSC has a different number of scan lines or something
similar to PAL and will not decode properly ( we assume NTSC stands for
Never The Same Color as the quality is usually less than PAL standard )
With the advances in technology, hopefully things will change in the near
future - depending on whether Monitor Technologies are developed
differently from existing ( developing monitors based on NTSC / PAL
standards instead of a universal standard)
Still, as there are many more available titles in NTSC Laserdisk, I wonder
which is the leader in terms of "popularity"
Bye for now.
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From: ff665@cleveland.freenet.edu (Michael A. Perry)
Date: Mon, 10 Mar 1997 11:32:59 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Space1999: testone
Testing for mysterious interference....
Pardon the interruption...
Michael
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From: mpoindexter@classtrain.com (Marshall Poindexter)
Date: Mon, 10 Mar 1997 11:28:06 -0600
Subject: Re: Space1999: Significance in Space
On 9 March 1997, Anthony Ritz (aritz1622@juno.com) wrote:
>Of all the adventures the alphans had encountered, certain of these
>adventures were of such epic proportion, that the adventure would
>seem to give meaning the Alphans' plight in space, and even the
>accidental explosion that sent the moon on an seemingly arbitrary
>course through space.
>
>Of such adventures, Collision Course comes to mind. Arra explains
>to John Koenig that it has been the Alphans' destiny, since the
>beginning of time, that their to worlds meet and transform. Another
>similar episode is Testament of Arcadia, where Anna Davis and Luke
>Ferro bring life back to the dead planet of Arcadia. The story grows in
>epic proportion, in that Arcadia is what had originally brought life to
>Earth.
>
>Then there are adventures that seem to counter the possibility of the
>significance to the Moon's direction and travel. In Space Brain, a brain
>that helped multitudes of worlds to exits lay directly in the path of
>the moon. Consequently said brain was unavoidably eradicated.
>Also in Seance Spectre, a developing world concealed in a weather
>belt lay helplessly in the path of Earth's divorced moon.
>
>Are their other episodes that give meaning to, or against either side
>of this dilemma? Or do all the episodes fit together in a congruent
>fashion, to form an even more important meaning? What if any, was
>the Significance to the Alphans being in space?
This is an excellent discussion topic, Tony. I've thought a lot about this
and it's probably the key reason that Space: 1999 is my favorite science
fiction series.
I'd have to say that more Year 1 (Y1) episodes address the reason for the
Moon's flight through space than Year 2 (Y2) episodes.
One other notable Y1 episode that alludes to the reasons behind the Moon's
breakaway is "War Games." In a comment to the aliens that kidnap Helena,
Commander Koenig acknowledges that God has been looking out for Alpha and
that there was no other explanation as to how they'd survived so long.
These references sure are a lot closer to acknowledging a higher power than
Star Trek ever has had. Besides, it kind of makes the implausible
scientific basis for the Moon blasting out of orbit a little MORE
believable. Only God could bend the rules of physics...
I don't know if I can look at episodes like "Space Brain" and "Seance
Spectre" and conclude that it was "wrong" for the Moon to be on a collision
course with each object. Perhaps that was the way it was meant to be: who
knows what the true outcome of the collision with the brain was? Maybe the
brain recovered, or split in two and became stronger. Or, perhaps the
worlds had been too dependent on the brain and its "death" forced them to
think for themselves. And, the collision course with the planet in "Seance"
certainly exposed the seamy undercurrent of rebellion that was fomenting,
even if it ultimately led to Sanderson's death.
Although the Y2 episodes largely didn't touch on these deeper themes, I
think that Arra's statement from "Collision Course" could still hold true
through the Y2 episodes, since they were still trying to find a home (note
"The Immunity Syndrome"). While Luke and Anna in "The Testament of Arkadia"
were certainly helping to "populate the deepest reaches of space" by
staying on Arkadia, the Alphans, too, would hopefully one day settle on a
planet and start anew.
I don't think that these themes were emphasized enough, and I think the
series would have been stronger if they had been. But, as I said, I love
this aspect of the series.
Thanks for starting such a fascinating discussion thread, Tony!
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