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From: Orbiter <rcox@intergate.bc.ca>
Date: Thu, 13 Mar 1997 15:29:43 -0800
Subject: Space1999: test

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O R B I T E R 
Richard Cox
Earth Base Vancouver, B.C.
Canada --------------------------------------------------

Space:1999 -

Cmdr Koenig:	"What does computer say?!"
Prof. Bergman:	"Computer says 'planet is uninhabited'..."
Sandra Benes:	"Commander! Message from planet surface!"

...there is no other...   :)
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From: "Gregory L. Wilcox" <greggw@infinet.com>
Date: Thu, 13 Mar 1997 23:41:15 GMT
Subject: Space1999: TEST <----DELETE

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Gregg Wilcox
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From: Marcy K <mk@wizard.com>
Date: Thu, 13 Mar 1997 19:57:16 -0500
Subject: Re: Space1999: Off-Topic: The Starlost

>I found some more information for you regarding Starlost:
>If you go to:   http://www.snowcrest.net/fox/star.html
>a comprehensive episode, character and concept guide.

Are any of you out there Heinlein fans? The basic story sounds a lot like
his novel which I believe was titled 'Orphans of the Sky' (my bookshevles
are downstairs). The story is about a colony ship that somehow never made
it and has been drifting through space for generations. The people are
mostly farmers, with a selected few chosen to be engineers and maintain the
power plant. Nobody knows that they are living in a ship.

An aspiring engineer gets caugnt during a cleanout of the muties (the folk
mutated from all the space radiation) who live in the upper levels of the
ship. While there he learns the true nature of the ship and tries to
convince the others.

Pretty similar, huh?

Marcy

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From: "Phillip C. Merkel" <captphil@unix.asb.com>
Date: Thu, 13 Mar 1997 20:40:19 -0500
Subject: Re: Space1999: terry nation rip

At 09:17 PM 3/12/97 +0000, John Hunter wrote:
OFF TOPIC WARNING

>just heard the sad news that terry nation (creator of the daleks in
>doctor who, blakes seven etc.etc.) has died at his american home after a
>long illness.
>
>he will be missed

>j

Terry Nation Dead! Oh God this is too sad.  A few years ago he was a guest
at the STony Brook NY convention I-Con.  I had the chance to introduce him
and ask a few questions at his speech.
When asked Where did you get the idea for the Daleks he replied...
"My wife was walking down the stairs in her polkadot bathrobe and asked WHAT
DO WANT FOR BREEEAAAKFASSST!!!!!! WHAAAAT DOOO YOU WAAAANT FOR
BREEAAAFAST!!!!!!!!!!!!!"

I know its off taopic for our list but I'm sure his work ifluenced Anderson
productions over the years and of course the writers of Space 1999.

Shame to see him go but a privelige to have met him once.

Phil M
captphil@unix.asb.com
Currently reading: Star Trek Phase II by Judith and Garfield Reeves-Stevens
(Okay, Star Trek is a guilty pleasure, don't tell anyone shhhhhh!)

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From: Mark Meskin <plastic.gravity@newrock.com>
Date: Wed, 3 Jan 1996 19:46:19 -0600
Subject: Re: Eagle Flight (was "Re: Space1999: Re: OT: Terry Nation")

>      Not as bad as BSG's Vipers having a Compass,
Artificial Horizon, and
> Altimeter in it's array of instruments to fly by!!
In a SPACESHIP!!!
>      You have to credit the design team, and
director, for NOT showing more
> of the dshboard of an Eagle. Therefore solving this
problem.
> 
> 
> Later...

Bad News John(well, not really),

The Eagle does have a compass, and a artificial
horizion ball.  Not only are they there,  but you
would need it for flying on the moon or anyother
planetary body.  Granted in Space they are useless,
but how could you navigate when near the surface , or
fly in inclement wether such as in "Death's Other
Dominion"(One of my favorite episodes).  Ive inlcuded
them in Eagle One as well.   On a planet where the
magnetic poles are drastically shifted from the
geographical poles the compass would be near useless,
and the moons magnetic field is very weak, so an Eagle
Compass would have to be a strange beast indeed. I'm
almost sure you talking about the absurd spining
horizion ball in the various dogfight scenes.  

Later Crater,
- -Mark
Creator of "EAGLE ONE"
Look for the 'beta' release soon!  I'm almost there...

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From: Evan Wharram <evanww@phc.igs.net>
Date: Thu, 13 Mar 1997 21:42:09 -0500
Subject: Re: Space1999: EAGLE PAGE FINISHED!!

- ----------
> From: John J Fleming <John@coldnorth.com>
> To: space1999@buffnet.net
> Subject: Re: Space1999: EAGLE PAGE FINISHED!!
> Date: Thursday, March 13, 1997 2:31 PM
> 
> >In other matters,, I'm trying to copyright the model, as soon as i've
> >finished it, 

> Hi Jose, and all other Alphan artists,
> 
>      As soon as you put pen to paper, or mouse to electronic image, it is
> copyrighted. Nothing further is needed to be done.
>      I would just add my name to the model, some place that only you know
> of. This way, if you suspect that someone is using your model as their
own,
> or with out permision, you can easily check. Just a thought!!
> 
> Later...

Greetings Jose, John, and fellow Alphans,
Coming out of lurker mode. Jose, With some of the Lightwave projects that
I've copyrighted, I've used a simple process as John has suggested. First
create a "signature" (just your name and date will do) using a Postscript
font and shrink it down to the size of a point. Place it wherever you like
in the object and give it the same surface name as the adjoing polygons.
Now it becomes one point in 50,000 and will be very difficult to locate.
However you'll always know where it is and can find it in seconds.
Hope this helps,
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From: John J Fleming <John@coldnorth.com>
Date: Thu, 13 Mar 1997 22:58:40 -0500
Subject: Space1999: Re: Eagle Flight

>The Eagle does have a compass, and a artificial
>horizion ball.  Not only are they there,  but you
>would need it for flying on the moon or anyother
>planetary body.  Granted in Space they are useless,
>but how could you navigate when near the surface , or
>fly in inclement wether such as in "Death's Other
>Dominion"(One of my favorite episodes).  Ive inlcuded
>them in Eagle One as well.   On a planet where the
>magnetic poles are drastically shifted from the
>geographical poles the compass would be near useless,
>and the moons magnetic field is very weak, so an Eagle
>Compass would have to be a strange beast indeed. I'm
>almost sure you talking about the absurd spining
>horizion ball in the various dogfight scenes.

     I was not suggesting that the Eagle DIDN'T have them for reasons you
have explained. But, at least they didn't try and fool us with types of
aircarft instruments that would be useless in the vacuum, magneticless
vassness of space.
     Any vehicle, such as the Eagle, an X-Wing, or Hammerhead, would need a
dual set of instruments to handle both types of enviroments. A strange beast
for sure.
     I have surmised that the Compass, Artificial Horizon, and Altimeter in
a Viper are used in reference to the location, plane of travel, and height
above or below that plane, to the Galactica herself. When they are on a
planet, or in its atmosphere, they revert to their "normal" use. Something
that the Eagle instruments could do as well. That way, you always know where
Moonbase Alpha is. Just set a heading of 47 degrees, and an asent of 3
degrees, and we'll be home before you know it!!


>Creator of "EAGLE ONE"
>Look for the 'beta' release soon!  I'm almost there...

     BTW, I WANT THE BETA NOW DAMN IT!!! :-)


Later...


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From: "Amberwolf (Michael Elliott)" <ambrwolf@ix.netcom.com>
Date: Thu, 13 Mar 1997 21:51:40 -0700
Subject: Re: Space1999: Re: Eagle Flight

John J Fleming wrote:

>      I was not suggesting that the Eagle DIDN'T have them for reasons you
> have explained. But, at least they didn't try and fool us with types of
> aircarft instruments that would be useless in the vacuum, magneticless
> vassness of space.

But it looks so dramatic!  :)


>      Any vehicle, such as the Eagle, an X-Wing, or Hammerhead, would need a
> dual set of instruments to handle both types of enviroments. A strange beast
> for sure.

(see note at end of email)


>      I have surmised that the Compass, Artificial Horizon, and Altimeter in
> a Viper are used in reference to the location, plane of travel, and height
> above or below that plane, to the Galactica herself. When they are on a
> planet, or in its atmosphere, they revert to their "normal" use. Something
> that the Eagle instruments could do as well. That way, you always know where
> Moonbase Alpha is. Just set a heading of 47 degrees, and an asent of 3
> degrees, and we'll be home before you know it!!

Inertial Navigation--the A320 and A340 Airbus Flight Management Computer
uses that, and so do most current designs of U.S.-made commercial craft,
like the MD-11 and 777.    (although it is done a LITTLE
differently....)


 
> >Creator of "EAGLE ONE"
> >Look for the 'beta' release soon!  I'm almost there...
> 
>      BTW, I WANT THE BETA NOW DAMN IT!!! :-)

DITTO!


> Later...
> 
> P.S. - I hope I read the instruments right...


Having worked at Honeywell/Sperry Commercial Flight Systems for a few
years testing cockpit displays, the type that get my vote are the "glass
cockpits":  all-LCD/CRT type instrumentation, so that you can change all
of the displays when needed.  (although it might be a good idea to keep
"manual" or "mechanical" backups.)  

The input devices need to remain tactile, so you can't safely use
touchscreens....


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From: Brian Dowling <brian.dowling@drugnet.co.uk>
Date: Thu, 13 Mar 1997 20:00:00 GMT
Subject: Space1999: OT: Terry Nation

'Tis with a sad heart I address you this evening...

While reading my mail packet, I found out that Terry Nation has died.  I
knew that someone connected with Doctor Who had died, from a newspaper
billboard I saw while going to work yesterday, but I had no idea it was
him.

I'm really shocked and stunned, because he was responsible for the
success of two of my other favourite programmes alongside Space 1999
namely Doctor Who and Blake's 7.

I never thought much of Daleks as a kid, but I realised what they were
as I grew older, and I always make sure I see a Dalek story if it's on
tv.  Had there not been the Daleks, I doubt whether there would have
been any more Doctor Who than that first season.

Blake's 7 I grew up with as much as Space:1999.  I wanted to be Avon
when I grew up, and here I sit at a computer some 18 years later, oft
regarded as some kind of expert by my friends.

As with the death of Jon Pertwee, I feel like a part of me has died, and
that the universe is somehow a less better place than it was.

I'm off to watch Genesis of the Daleks.

Later,
- ------------------------------------------------
Brian Dowling - Birmingham, England
Alphan #144
Eagle_1@compuserve.com
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From: Brian Dowling <brian.dowling@drugnet.co.uk>
Date: Thu, 13 Mar 1997 20:23:00 GMT
Subject: Space1999: Space1999 v Voyager

Evening All,

Regarding ST:Voyager, Jon wrote...

>As soon as ST: Voyager hit the waves in 1995, I think, it immediately
>struck me as a ripoff of the much superior Space: 1999.

That was the first thing I said when I heard about the concept, and
repeated when the series came out.  It just didn't do anything for me in
the same way that 1999, Blake's 7 et al did.  More like being hit around
the knees with a wet smoked haddock, it begs the question "Why?".

And Mel Brooks answers that in "Spaceballs" when he says "With any luck,
we'll all meet up again in Spaceballs 2: The Search For More Money"!

>Instead of a moon they were on a TACKY looking ship!

Hey c'mon!  What chance did they stand trying to compete with the Eagle?

>The only character I like on Voyager is Tuvok, but he reminds me of
>Spock too much. That's probably why I like him.

Some of the acting is very good.  Tim Russ is outstanding as Tuvok, but
that would only appeal to Vulcan fans.  Robert Picardo is excellent as
the HoloDoc, and even if the episode is a bad one, there might just be a
line from the HoloDoc to make it worth watching.  Other than that, I'm
not too struck on it really.  And my 70 year old grandmother absolutely
hates it!

They're going to need to do a lot better, or soon lots of ST fans are
going to realise that they're being taken for a ride...

Later,
- -----------------------------------------------
Brian Dowling - Birmingham, England
Alphan #144
Eagle_1@compuserve.com
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From: Brian Dowling <brian.dowling@drugnet.co.uk>
Date: Thu, 13 Mar 1997 20:11:00 GMT
Subject: Space1999: Early signs of 1999

Salute omnes!

>How old were you when you realised Space was destined to be more than
>"just another show" to you?

For whatever reason, I can't recall much of my early years, but when
things at home started changing, I ended up spending lots of time with
my grandparents.  Nan always watched sci-fi if it was on the TV, and I
was a virtual sponge, soaking up lots of information and an awful lot of
tv.  This is why I have an almost anorak level of knowledge about
assorted 70s sci-fi.

Not many memories of year 1 are clear, but I do have memories of Seed of
Destruction, amongst others, very clearly.  I can't say that there was a
defining moment that ensured Space:1999 would mean something more than,
say, The Sweeney (UK 70s cop show), but I do associate the memories of
1999 as being happy moments.

There was so many memorable things about it, most notably the Eagle
spacecraft.  Show most people my age over here an Eagle spacecraft, and
they will recognise it.  They might not be able to name what it is and
where it's from, but they will recognise it.

There was something memorable about Alan Carter as well.  His accent,
possibly?  Oh yes, and Maya.  Purdey came first, however, and it was
Purdey who was to be my young man's dream.  I'm shutting up now in case
I incriminate myself!

Later,
- -------------------------------------
Brian Dowling - Birmingham, England
Alphan #144
Eagle_1@compuserve.com
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From: Marcy K <mk@wizard.com>
Date: Fri, 14 Mar 1997 03:35:36 -0500
Subject: Space1999: Thanks and New Guestbook

Hi Alphans!

I just wanted to thank everyone who sent me wonderful supporting letters in
the past few days. There are so many that I don't have time right now to
answer them all as they deserve, so take this letter as a giant "thank you"
to all of you. The past few days reminded me of why I love this list so
much, in a time when I was really beginning to doubt getting so involved in
it. I'm not as big a 1999 fan as most of you--it's a show that's in my top
25 of favorites, but not in my top 10. The reason I've become so involved
with 1999 on the net is that the fans are by far the best group around and
I love being involved with you guys.

On the Cyber Museum front, I just installed a new guestbook, that runs as a
PERL script from my server, rather than from the cheesy guestbook service.
I transferred all the old messages--could a few of you try it out and let
me know if it works?

Thanks!

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From: Pertti.Ruismaki@datex-engstrom.com
Date: Fri, 14 Mar 1997 10:54:23 +0200
Subject: Space1999: Early signs of Space:1999 addiction

          My earliest sign of Space:1999 addiction was the first time I read
          a magazine article of coming tv shows. The name Gerry Anderson
          was mentioned. What else do you need to get hooked, when you have
          seen Thunderbirds and you know what the guy can do?

          -Pertti
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From: Pertti.Ruismaki@datex-engstrom.com
Date: Fri, 14 Mar 1997 11:15:10 +0200
Subject: Space1999: Poor Old Aaron

     Could you imagine Aaron Spelling producing Y2?  Space:90210?

          Or Space's Angels or The Space Boat?

          Glen A. Larson could have done it. According to Internet Movie
          Database he seemed to have lots of spare time between Alias Smith
          And Jones (btw imho the second best western after Brisco County)
          and Battlestar Galactica (which btw is almost but not quite unlike
          Y2).

          -Pertti
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From: mpoindexter@classtrain.com (Marshall Poindexter)
Date: Fri, 14 Mar 1997 08:11:36 -0600
Subject: Space1999: Re: The Stress of Being an Alphan!

On 10 March 1997, David Welle (dwelle@online.dct.com) wrote about how
personnel losses on Alpha might affect the community:

>And what about everyone else?  Fewer people around to do the same amount of
>working, taking on new duties without necessarily being able to release
>their old duties to anyone else.  More stress, exhaustion, burn-out, even
>psychological problems leading down the road to outright insanity?

I really appreciated David bringing up this point. I think that's why Year
2's "Seance Spectre" is such a great one: a few Alphans go nuts from being
cooped up. It was bound to happen. In fact, it would have been nice to see
the effects of that stress pop up more often in the character's
interactions with each other. How about a scene of Sandra rubbing her neck
to relax her taut and sore muscles? Or, Tony, in a private moment, pounding
his fists into his bed or onto the floor in frustration over the loss of an
Alphan colleague? You could even have a scene with Koenig and Russell
having a fight, soon to be followed by apologies. I know that none of this
sounds particularly fun, but it would have made their plight more real to
me.

I think that the producers and writers had so much potential to make Space:
1999 a drama that viewers would really be able to identify with: if these
people were facing and overcoming stress, depression, disappointments,
death, etc., in a smaller version of our society (on a moonbase flung far
into space), why couldn't we draw inspiration from them to do the same here
on Earth?

It just occurred to me that perhaps Space: 1999 would have been better
suited to the culture of the 1990s than the 1970s. Yes, there were societal
problems back in the '70s, too, but wasn't there more a mood of optimism
then than there is now? (Help me out here, older members of the list. I was
only 10 in 1977.) There seem to be more TV shows today that are darker and
grittier, with fewer "happy endings."

In that sense, I'd have to say that Year 1 of S1999 probably would do
extremely well today, and that Year 2 of S1999 might not do as well.

Well, I've brought up enough topics to stir the pot a bit. What do you all
think?

____________________
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From: John J Fleming <John@coldnorth.com>
Date: Fri, 14 Mar 1997 11:08:34 -0500
Subject: Space1999: Space1999 Mailing List T-shirts - NEW!!!

>I was wondering how far you were in creating new mailing list T-shirts...
>I've got $50.00 in bonus money & I want to buy that year 1 CD & your T-shirt
>& badge special((if that's still available))

Hi Colleen,

     All the old Mailing List T-Shirts are gone, or spoken for. Actualy, I'm
in the hole 1 shirt. BTW, Jim, would you like that as an OLD list shirt, or
with the new address on it?? (space1999@buffnet.net)

     This means that all the shirts from here on in, will have the NEW
address on them. I am hoping to make a version that has the Hawk in place of
the Eagle. Any thoughts on that people??

     The T-Shirt and OLA MBA ID Badge special (both for $19.99 US, shipping
included), is still on. That special will run to May 31st (originaly it was
going to June 30, but I am out of old shirts). That is good for US/Canada
locations, overseas will have to pay a wopping $3.00 US more for the extra
shipping.

     The ID Badge that I came up with, is far from the original design. I
have recently aquired a Tech Notebook, and now know what they are supposed
to look like. So, I will be redesigning the OLA MBA ID Badge. But, the OLD
design will still be available for the same price as the new one. Or is that
the new one is available for the same price as the OLD one. Whatever...


Later...




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From: John J Fleming <John@coldnorth.com>
Date: Fri, 14 Mar 1997 12:24:18 -0500
Subject: Re: Space1999: Re: The Stress of Being an Alphan!

>I really appreciated David bringing up this point. I think that's why Year
>2's "Seance Spectre" is such a great one: a few Alphans go nuts from being
>cooped up. It was bound to happen. In fact, it would have been nice to see
>the effects of that stress pop up more often in the character's
>interactions with each other. How about a scene of Sandra rubbing her neck
>to relax her taut and sore muscles? Or, Tony, in a private moment, pounding
>his fists into his bed or onto the floor in frustration over the loss of an
>Alphan colleague? You could even have a scene with Koenig and Russell
>having a fight, soon to be followed by apologies. I know that none of this
>sounds particularly fun, but it would have made their plight more real to
>me.

     This is one of the reasons I liked Earth 2 so much. It was dark, and
graining. Not everyone got along. And the stress of the whole situation took
its tole on everyone.
     1999 at least showed a little of this stree, with the aforementioned
"Seance Spectre", and we can't forget "Dragon's Domain". Voyager just
glosses over this aspect of it. And that is onething where Voyager can use
some improvement. Earth 2 took this subject head on. The had fist-fights,
tried to kill each other, outcast others, and so on.
     And our little community in cyberspace has these very same issues going
on. Just look at the last few days/weeks. We, as OLA, should almost be
required to be unsubed for at least two weeks a year. A kinda forced holidy.
But please don't do that, it was just a passing comment. "I want my... I
want my.. I want my 1999 list!!!" A realy bad adaptation of Dire Straight's
"Money for nothin'" song.


Later...


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From: John J Fleming <John@coldnorth.com>
Date: Fri, 14 Mar 1997 12:24:10 -0500
Subject: Space1999: Re: Open and Public Apology to John Fleming

Hi Mike, and all,

     Thanks for the apology. Consider it accepted, unconditionaly!!

     Its kind of funny, this coming on the heels of Marshall's post about
Alphans showing signs of stress. Talk about a perfect paring of posts.
Stress is a killer, literaly. I myself have suffered an ulcer a few years
back due to stress. At the New Year's Eve party that year, I was doing
Peptol Bismal shooters, while everyone else was getting blasted. Not a lot
of fun!! And Mexican food still does a job on it, but I like it so much!! A
little suffering is worth it.

     So Mike, you're a photographer of toys?? Photograph anything us Alphans
mike be interested in, or just plain funny and amusing??

     Hey, you know, I don't think our OLA has an official photographer!!


Later...




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From: Eurothug@aol.com
Date: Fri, 14 Mar 1997 13:31:22 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Re: Space1999: Re: The Stress of Being an Alphan!

Hi All !

Speaking of Alpha stress, If there are any AOL members lurking why don't we
all get together in one of the sci-fi chat rooms ?. i'm fed up of listening
about the new star trek film , i have not seen it but now i know the entire
script , also star wars trilogy gets a little boring ! . i tried the IRC but
no one home , my girlfriend said something about time zones and europe so i
will have to start being a A.M rather than a P.M alphan. i'm still waiting
for the YEAR 1 CD on import so as always were a bit behind the U.S but
everybody thinks its great ! i hope CD 1 comes off as well.

As always i do enjoy reading 'my letters from america' and hope we can get
more input from europe !
Eurothug.

P.S  mcevoyc, mail eurothug about trade with home address as 3 times i got
(unrecoverable error) Sorry ! if thats a little off topic. Eurothug
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From: jeff findley <jeff.findley@sdrc.com>
Date: Fri, 14 Mar 1997 13:33:00 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Re: Space1999: Re: The Stress of Being an Alphan!

>      This is one of the reasons I liked Earth 2 so much. It was dark, and
> graining. Not everyone got along. And the stress of the whole situation took
> its tole on everyone.
>      1999 at least showed a little of this stree, with the aforementioned
> "Seance Spectre", and we can't forget "Dragon's Domain". Voyager just
> glosses over this aspect of it. And that is onething where Voyager can use
> some improvement. Earth 2 took this subject head on. The had fist-fights,
> tried to kill each other, outcast others, and so on.

Voyager tries, at times, to have episodes that are dark.  What's the name
of that race that likes to steal body parts?  They are, for the most part,
a dark and mysterious lot.  However, Voyager being what it is, they also
had an episode where the doctor was trying to save one of their race and
he ended up falling in love (if you can consider a computer generated 
hologram in love) with her.  

The producers of Voyager must have some rule that says that every race
must have some redeeming factor.  This runs contrary to episodes of
Space: 1999 like "Dragon's Domain" where the creature really didn't have 
any redeeming qualities.  You can't reason with a creature that only
wants to eat you and doesn't seem to be extremely smart.

Come to think of it STNG, DS9, and Voyager all seem to deal with this 
issue in a similar way.  The most dark and evil of races, creatures, or
characters always seem to have some redeeming value.

Jeff
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