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From: djlerda@juno.com (David J Lerda)
Date: Sun, 23 Mar 1997 06:33:02 EST
Subject: Re: Space1999: Space: 1999 Model Re-Issue
>
>Please, let's not start doubting someone's believability again. The
>list
>just returned to a more friendly attitude. Just because our questions
>aren't
>answered easily or right away, doesn't mean the answer isn't out
>there. Have
>patience.
>
I'm not trying to start another list war and I've been debating long and
hard about whether or not to respond to the above post. Here is my
original post:
I just received a reply to my letter to MPC / ERTL about the re-issue of
Space: 1999 model kits. Unfortunately, I got a form letter thanking me
for my interest. A copy of their current hobby product line was
included. No Space: 1999 models listed. The list projected kit release
dates up to 9/97 so they may be coming after then. Does anyone have
anything more concrete in writing? If I recall, this claim about a
re-issue of the model kits came out at roughly the same time that
"cartoon man" was making his claims about animated episodes. Someone may
have seen an opportuinity to throw more buffalo chips on the fire by
claiming the models were being re-released.
I'm bummed out man. :-(
Now, please note the following:
1) I took the time to make a phone call to find out about the model kits
2) When the phone call provided no information, I wrote a letter to ERTL
about said models
3) I have promptly reported the results of 1 & 2 for the list for
members' information.
4) I think I have the right to engage in speculation that maybe our
collective leg was being pulled. I don't think that's being unfriendly.
I will agree that the total amount of effort on my part with respect to
the phone call and letter and list postings is one hour at most but I did
take some of my time to check out something for the benefit of the list.
I did not say unequivocally that the wool was being pulled over our
collective eyes, I just said that , to the best of my recollection, the
toptic of the models being re-issued came up about the same time as the
animated series spat and some other practical joker may have decided to
stir the pot some more. If my memory is faulty about when the actual
model re-issue claims were made, I apologize to whomever made the
statement about the models. But I would like to think that I can post to
the list without having to "walk on eggshells" about what might offend
whom.
David
Pilot, Pursuit Eagle 5, # 171
David J Lerda
Salisbury, MD, USA
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From: MIKE GRYGO <GROG@erie.net>
Date: Sun, 23 Mar 1997 08:36:19 -0500
Subject: Re: Space1999: Space: 1999 Model Re-Issue
If the 12" Eagle model is not to be released, I do remember
John Fleming at Cold North mentioning something a while
back about releasing a 33" Eagle kit; how about it John,
is this going to be released, and if it is, has a price been
set yet?
grog@erie.net
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From: MIKE GRYGO <GROG@erie.net>
Date: Sun, 23 Mar 1997 09:05:34 -0500
Subject: Space1999: Re: Eagle Building Mag Article Circa 1987
Back in 1986 or 1987 a tabloid-sized model magazine had
a 6-8 page spread showing a large eagle that was scratch
built by a computer programmer, in his spare time over
a 9 month period. I also remember detailed pictures
showing his vacuform area in this basement/workshop
for making the nosecone and other parts; he made the
nosecone out of Durhams rock-hard water putty and
vacuformed over it.
Here's the bad news; when I left a production designer
position for a feature film that was to be shot here in Erie
(it never got past pre-production) I unintentionally left the
magazine behind. Does anybody remember the name of
this publication; it was definitely for model building only;
no trains or RCs. The pictures/article were printed in a
newsprint section with B&W pics; it kills me now that I
remember all this, but not the name of the mag.
No hoax, this was the only time, before coming to this
list a few months back, that I had heard of anyone
building an Eagle.
I also remember Terry Bowers, 1999 model spaceship
builder, remarking in the article that the ship was beautiful;
much better than the one actually built for the show
(which was built in only two months!).
Well how about it? Anyone know tabloid-sized modeling
mags enough to send me a few names to jog my memeory.
After that, it's only a matter of a little time and research
to track this back-issue down.
I do have an interview with the guy who built the 44" Eagle
that went in front of the cameras(Wag); let me know if you
want me to post that here.
grog@erie.net
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From: StarParty@aol.com
Date: Sun, 23 Mar 1997 12:15:15 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Space1999: re: Eagle Building Mag Article Circa 1987
I meant to forward this to the list the first time!
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Forwarded message:
Subj: Re: Space1999: Re: Eagle Building Mag Article Circa 1987
Date: 97-03-23 12:13:36 EST
From: StarParty
To: GROG@erie.net
In a message dated 97-03-23 09:22:31 EST, GROG@erie.net
writes:
<< I also remember Terry Bowers, 1999 model spaceship
builder, remarking in the article that the ship was beautiful;
much better than the one actually built for the show
(which was built in only two months!). >>
This article may have been one about Mr. Lew Place of Rhode Island who built
a most beautiful LIFE-SIZE replica of the Eagles pilot compartment. Terry
would have all the details though, and I may be totally off-base (so to
speak!). Terry isn't a model spaceship builder herself, but certainly has a
pulse on the goings on in American fandom over the past 20 years.
Tony Wynn
StarParty@aol.com
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From: David Welle <dwelle@online.dct.com>
Date: Sun, 23 Mar 1997 13:00:53
Subject: Space1999: Fwd: Lunar Eclipse Tonight
I'm forwarding on the following:
>From: Robert <rljohnso@netins.net>
>Subject: Lunar Eclipse Tonight
>Date: Sun, 23 Mar 1997 09:20:39 -0600
[rest of header cut]
>
>Greetings Alphans........
>
>I just wanted to remind everyone of tonights Lunar eclipse.......
>
>You don't want to miss this one, it will be one of the last / best ones
>until the year 2000...... Which by that time the moon will be far far away
>from the earth.....
>
>One will be able to see comet Hale-Bopp much more clearly, since the moon's
>light will be dimmed.... look in the northwest sky after sundown about 10
>to 15deg above the horizon.......
>
>There is more information at www.astronomy.com under the current sky events
>column...
>
> >>> Robert <<<
[Further headers cut from this excerpt:]
>
><H2>A Vernal Lunar Eclipse</H2>
>
><P>As people in the Northern Hemisphere rejoice the arrival of spring, =
>the sky salutes them back with an eclipse on Sunday evening, March 23.
>Although not a total one like last fall's extravaganza, this month's =
>partial will be a spectacular event nonetheless. The Moon cuts so deep =
>into Earth's shadow that at mideclipse it will display only a super-thin =
>white eyebrow above an orange face.
><P>Barring any volcanic eruptions that spew dust into Earth's =
>atmosphere, the shadowed part of the Moon takes on a bright orange hue. =
>The color will become apparent as more of the Moon's bright face slides =
>into darkness.
><P>One simply cannot overstate the beauty of an eclipse in binoculars. =
>Many onlookers say the Moon takes on a three-dimensional appearance in =
>binoculars during the partial phases. Will the effect be noticeable =
>during this month's eclipse? The sensation is less obvious during =
>totality, so start observing early.
><P>As the Moon's bright light gets extinguished, fainter stars will =
>glimmer into view. Mars lies 10 degrees away -- compare its rusty color =
>with the Moon's ruddy hue. And don't forget to look north for Comet =
>Hale-Bopp's tail, which may wink into view close to the moment of =
>mideclipse. <I>-- Alister Ling</I>
>
><P>Illustration by ASTRONOMY: Elisabeth Rown.
><HR>
>From the Sky Almanac column in the March 1997 ASTRONOMY
><BR>Copyright ©1997 Kalmbach Publishing Co.
><HR>
- ----
David Welle
dwelle@online.dct.com
http://www.dct.com/~dwelle/s19.html
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From: djlerda@juno.com (David J Lerda)
Date: Sun, 23 Mar 1997 14:11:47 EST
Subject: Re: Fwd: Space1999: 2001 & Alien
On Sun, 23 Mar 1997 11:28:43 -0500 (EST) Trekfan100@aol.com writes:
>Good point..What I should have said was Dragon's Domain reminded me of
>Alien...
>
>Colleen
BTW, I apologize if my earlier post seemed a tad on the snide side. I
didn't intend it that way. One of the limitations of e-mail is that
things like voice inflection, facial expressions, and context can be
lost. Sorry.
David
Pilot, Pursuit Eagle 5, # 171
David J Lerda
Salisbury, MD, USA
djlerda@juno.com
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From: Ina Litera <ilitera@idt.net>
Date: Sun, 23 Mar 1997 15:04:30 +0000
Subject: Re: Space1999: Contraception on Alpha
Perhaps there was forced abstenence. This would explain why everyone
seemed so tense in Yr2 and it would give the security people something
to do.
Just a thought
Ina
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From: John & Robin <imzadi@bellsouth.net>
Date: Sun, 23 Mar 1997 18:35:22 -0500
Subject: Re: Space1999: Fwd: Lunar Eclipse Tonight
David Welle wrote:
>
> I'm forwarding on the following:
>
spring, =
> >the sky salutes them back with an eclipse on Sunday evening, March 23.
=
> >partial will be a spectacular event nonetheless. The Moon cuts so deep =
> >into Earth's shadow that at mideclipse it will display only a super-thin =
> >white eyebrow above an orange face.
> ><P>Barring any volcanic eruptions that spew dust into Earth's =
> >atmosphere, the shadowed part of the Moon takes on a bright orange hue. =
> >The color will become apparent as more of the Moon's bright face slides =
> >into darkness.
> ><P>One simply cannot overstate the beauty of an eclipse in binoculars. =
> >Many onlookers say the Moon takes on a three-dimensional appearance in =
> >binoculars during the partial phases. Will the effect be noticeable =
> >during this month's eclipse? The sensation is less obvious during =
> >totality, so start observing early.
> ><P>As the Moon's bright light gets extinguished, fainter stars will =
> >glimmer into view. Mars lies 10 degrees away -- compare its rusty color =
> >with the Moon's ruddy hue. And don't forget to look north for Comet =
> >Hale-Bopp's tail, which may wink into view close to the moment of =
> >mideclipse. <I>-- Alister Ling</I>
> >
Wow! Busy night tonight. I just got married yesterday and we are
taking the week off. We are borrowing my wife's brothers
telescope and are goung to my parents place in the country.
I hope to have a good evening of stargazing tonite.
Good viewing everyone!
JohnC
MBA #165
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From: Artist0161@aol.com
Date: Sun, 23 Mar 1997 18:46:11 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Space1999: S1999 DUKE NUKEM 3D
Does anyone out there know of, or have any S1999 maps/levels for Duke Nukem
3D? I would appreciate any info. Thanks in advance...back to lurk mode.
Ed Horn(Artist0161)
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From: "Ellen C. Lindow" <sfdxb@scfn.thpl.lib.fl.us>
Date: Sun, 23 Mar 1997 19:26:05 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Re: Space1999: Fwd: Lunar Eclipse Tonight
Congradulations John and happy stargazing together.
Friday night we took my son's Boy Scout troop up to a campground about 50
miles from here and got to watch the Halle-Bopp comet all the way up. We
had a terrific view of it, and also of Mars which is at it's closest
approach. E
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Wife, Mother, Media Specialist | And these are the hands we're given
Quail Hollow Elementary | Use them and let's start trying
Pasco County, Florida; Boy Scout| To make is a place worth living in."
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From: Orbiter <rcox@intergate.bc.ca>
Date: Sun, 23 Mar 1997 22:18:30 -0800
Subject: Space1999: eclipse & comet
Hi Alphan cohorts!
As I sit outside (half freezing) and watching the Halle-Bopp Comet
and Lunar eclipse through binoculars, I cannot help but feel very
miniscule.
Imagining how Alphans may have come across such wonders during their
travels and comparing this brief experience and realizing that it
will happen again in 4 millenia makes me understand just how great
this experience is. To top it all off, to watch an eclipse over the
opposite horizon: Too cool!
What are the chances of having 2 wonders happen within the same two
hour span?!
At times like this, I realize life doesn't get any better.
We have our own "base" so to speak, which is in a galaxy, which
itself is far from stationary. Our galaxy travels as Moon Base Alpha
did (but maybe not quite as colorfully, though).
...I think my beer is too strong: signing off for tonight.
/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\
O R B I T E R
Richard Cox
Earth Base Vancouver, B.C.
Canada --------------------------------------------------
Space:1999 -
Cmdr Koenig: "What does computer say?!"
Prof. Bergman: "Computer says 'planet is uninhabited'..."
Sandra Benes: "Commander! Message from planet surface!"
...there is no other... :)
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From: djlerda@juno.com (David J Lerda)
Date: Mon, 24 Mar 1997 02:28:14 EST
Subject: Re: Space1999: eclipse & comet
On Sun, 23 Mar 1997 22:18:30 -0800 Orbiter <rcox@intergate.bc.ca> writes:
>Hi Alphan cohorts!
>
>As I sit outside (half freezing) and watching the Halle-Bopp Comet
>and Lunar eclipse through binoculars, I cannot help but feel very
>miniscule.
>Imagining how Alphans may have come across such wonders during their
>travels and comparing this brief experience and realizing that it
>will happen again in 4 millenia makes me understand just how great
>this experience is. To top it all off, to watch an eclipse over the
>opposite horizon: Too cool!
>What are the chances of having 2 wonders happen within the same two
>hour span?!
>At times like this, I realize life doesn't get any better.
>We have our own "base" so to speak, which is in a galaxy, which
>itself is far from stationary. Our galaxy travels as Moon Base Alpha
>did (but maybe not quite as colorfully, though).
Time to watch "The Testament of Arkadia" and "The Black Sun" again. Then
ponder the beauty and wonders of the universe. To think that we are the
only form of consciousness in this universe is the height of human
arrogance.
>
>...I think my beer is too strong: signing off for tonight.
Ah yes. Moosehead. I remember it well.
>/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\
>O R B I T E R
>Richard Cox
>Earth Base Vancouver, B.C.
>Canada --------------------------------------------------
>
>
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From: MIKE GRYGO <GROG@erie.net>
Date: Mon, 24 Mar 1997 09:03:06 -0500
Subject: Re: Space1999: Re: Eagle Building Mag Article Circa 1987
The article I'm looking for was about the custom scratch-
building of an Eaglel; What I'm looking for is a serious
modeler who might be able to give me a few names of
tabloid-sized modeling mags (even if they're not around
today, but were 10 years ago).
Thanks for the info though; do you have the artilce about
the guy who built the lifesized cockpit?
grog@erie.net
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From: MIKE GRYGO <GROG@erie.net>
Date: Mon, 24 Mar 1997 09:07:44 -0500
Subject: Re: Space1999: Re: Eagle Building Mag Article Circa 1987
The publication I'm looking for was American, 1987/88.
I may just have to travel to the mall and see what I can
find in the way of tabloid-sized modeling mags. After
reading so much about people making their own eagle
models, I'm sure the information would be enlightening,
especially the vacuum form station, etc.
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From: mpoindexter@classtrain.com (Marshall Poindexter)
Date: Mon, 24 Mar 1997 08:35:37 -0600
Subject: Space1999: Re: Eclipse & comet
On 23 March 1997, Richard Cox (rcox@intergate.bc.ca) wrote:
>As I sit outside (half freezing) and watching the Halle-Bopp Comet
>and Lunar eclipse through binoculars, I cannot help but feel very
>miniscule.
>Imagining how Alphans may have come across such wonders during their
>travels and comparing this brief experience and realizing that it
>will happen again in 4 millenia makes me understand just how great
>this experience is. To top it all off, to watch an eclipse over the
>opposite horizon: Too cool!
>What are the chances of having 2 wonders happen within the same two
>hour span?!
You're right. It was nothing short of amazing that these two events
happened on the same night.
I also do not think it's a coincidence that they happened on Palm Sunday.
____________________
Marshall Poindexter
mpoindexter@classtrain.com
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From: Donald Hayunga <miramar@escape.ca>
Date: Mon, 24 Mar 1997 13:37:44 -0600
Subject: Space1999: Tme-lines
Hi Again;
I was talking to John at Cold North Pub about the timeline in
the tech notebook. He told me about a timelne created by someone called
"Boomer". I hope this is correct, if your out there Boomer please sent
me a copy of your timeline to add to my s1999 archives.
Thanks
Don
miramar@escape.ca
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From: ff665@cleveland.freenet.edu (Michael A. Perry)
Date: Mon, 24 Mar 1997 16:06:37 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Space1999: HELP! Looking for Laser cover art scans...
...can you help me?
- --
Michael Perry ***I own all Space:1999 and UFO episodes w/o commercials!***
ff665@cleveland.freenet.edu **I have Nowhere Man***Getting StarLost episodes**
Chief of Ops USS Memory Alpha NCC-751.457 Indy, IN I HAVE ALL TREK!!
I collect all Star Trek related video. Interested in trade/sell/buy? Email me
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From: Gary Girouard <GGirouard@lifespan.org>
Date: Mon, 24 Mar 1997 17:11:00 -0500
Subject: Space1999: re: Eagle Building Mag Article Circa 1987 -Reply
do you know what city in Rhode Island he lives in? Thats where i live,
Gary
<< I also remember Terry Bowers, 1999 model spaceship
builder, remarking in the article that the ship was beautiful;
much better than the one actually built for the show
(which was built in only two months!). >>
This article may have been one about Mr. Lew Place of Rhode Island
who built
a most beautiful LIFE-SIZE replica of the Eagles pilot compartment.
*
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From: Eurothug@aol.com
Date: Mon, 24 Mar 1997 18:46:54 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Space1999: IF ONLY....!
Hi All !
With the current debate about 'The Eagle' I saw on sunday a very rare in the
U.K Mattel Eagle which was around 44 inch's long and i wanted it, until the
words "its the only one in england ! " hit me in the chest . "how much ?" i
replied "ONLY #210 ($315)" .
Now am i the only one who thinks that's expensive ? . Here in the U.K and
europe we seem to pay way above the going rate for imported u.s item's and
makes it so hard to try to start up a collection.
I wonder, does anybody know of anything on their 'wish list' that they cannot
get hold of !
Eurothug
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From: "Atomic Possum" <atomicpossum@juno.com>
Date: Mon, 24 Mar 1997 19:04:35 -0600
Subject: Space1999: Source for 1999 Novels
Went to Millennicon in Cincinatti last weekend....Ran across a book dealer
that had 14 1999 books (the novels, plus the "Making of," plus a book on
U.F.O.), and the guy said he had a stack back at the shop too.
Unfortunately, sales at the con sucked and all I had was enough to buy
'Breakaway' for the car ride home (for $4.00). It's in real good shape and
the binding isn't even broken, although it's evidently been sitting around
a while and the cover is worn a little. If anyone's looking for one or all
of the books, they are:
DarkStar Books and Comics
237 Xenia Ave,
Yellow Springs, OH 45387
(937)797-9400
E-mail : DRKSTR YS@aol.com
Web: http://www.fentonnet.com/cyberpress/darsktar.html
Jon "Mr. Wonderful" Stadter
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From: Orbiter <rcox@intergate.bc.ca>
Date: Mon, 24 Mar 1997 20:48:03 -0800
Subject: Space1999: Playing cards: a posting mood
Hi Alphan cohorts:
Well, I'm in a bit of a posting mood tonight. If anyone is
interested in downloading from the newsgroups, I've posted
a ZIP file in HACTAR.SPACE-1999 newsgroup. This file is
in 56 sequences at 40 Kbytes per sequence totaling 2.24 Mb.
It contains the 66 card bubblegum playing/trading card col-
lection by Donruss.
Depending on your modem speed, following is an approximate
guess at download times:
14.4 - 30 min
28.8 - 18 min
36.6 - 10 min
56.8 - 5 min
Enjoy...
/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\
O R B I T E R
Richard Cox
Earth Base Vancouver, B.C.
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Space:1999 -
Cmdr Koenig: "What does computer say?!"
Prof. Bergman: "Computer says 'planet is uninhabited'..."
Sandra Benes: "Commander! Message from planet surface!"
...there is no other... :)
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From: NicStepro@aol.com
Date: Tue, 25 Mar 1997 11:40:34 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Re: Space1999: Alternative Space
Hi Ermes, Should we say Welcome back to the list?
Of course when the Alphans do find a home- it may be the
exact opposite. (Not necessarily forced but) encouraged
multiple births and large families to rebuild humanity.
The first time seeing 'Another Time,Another Place' I found it
surprising. All the SF series I had seen presented the future,
if not paradise, at least w/ nature existing in it. Not as pockets of
humanity living out their lives in artificial cities. In Blakes 7 &
THXwhatever,
the people weren't permitted to go outside- but nature was there and had
recovered. Not so in Space 1999's future. Pretty Grim.
Nicolette
In a message dated 97-03-20 12:02:35 EST, marzo83@iol.it (Ermes Mercury)
writes:
<< Certainly, better the contraceptives of the abortion (terrible crime, in
any
case!). Nevertheless, the real problem on Alpha (in my opinion, of
course),
is the continuation of the human species and not the birth control!
The probabilities that the Alphans are the last earthmans in the space,
are
high. "Another Place, Another Time", teaches.........
Ermes >>
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