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Date: Sun, 11 Jan 1998 21:39:45
From: "Phillip C. Merkel" <captphil@unix.asb.com>
Subject: Space1999: Here is the link for the word 97 viewer
I couldn't connect to my old link for the microsoft word viewer before
because (Now get this...) Socket wasn't connected!!!!
Those sneaky phone lines!
anyway here is the place for the free word 97 viewer in case you can't use
the DOC format on your word processor. (Is there anyone left in the world
using AMIPRO 3.0 ?)
http://www.microsoft.com/msword/internet/viewer/viewer97_16/
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Date: Sun, 11 Jan 1998 22:39:25 -0500
From: Patricia Embury <Patriemb@sprintmail.com>
Subject: Re: Space1999: Another Time Another Place
B J Dowling wrote:
> Hi folks,
>
>
>
> Security must have got a frightful rollocking after that guard got done
> over (dare I say bonked? :-) ) by Regina. Another gun which shouldn't have
> been taken. We're looking at what could be called schizophrenia, I think,
> so why wasn't a full medical analysis done? I can't help but get the
> feeling that if a full med check was done, all this 2 brain stuff might
> have been discovered earlier.
>
I'm suprised she could deck him with just a commlock!
> Can I sound off a little here? No offence intended to anyone, but...
> Why do all the episodes with some kind of involvement with Earth point
> straight towards the US? What's the thing with California and Texas?
>
It seems it's not just 1999 that uses Texas and California. I've read
other survivalist-type things that have used this region, and played Wasteland,
which I believe was set in this area. Not only is it the name recognition the
writers went for, but it is farther south which might enable it to survive some
environmental catastrophe involving any of the polar regions. That's my guess,
anyway.
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Date: Mon, 12 Jan 1998 09:02:06 +0200
From: Pertti.Ruismaki@datex-engstrom.com
Subject: Re: Space1999: Another Time, Another Place
> Where did they come up with the pronunciation for Regina? Is it a British
> thing? Why do they say it like it is spelled Regheena?
Giving the "G" a hard sound as in "give" instead of a soft sound is not
unheard of. I kind of liked the different pronounciation.
I believe that it is based on the fact that Regina is a Latin word
(=queen) and in Latin g is pronounced that way.
By the way, how are the first names of some of our favourite
Andersons pronounced, Gerry and Gillian? Is it like Jerry and
Jillian?
-Pertti
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Date: Sun, 11 Jan 1998 23:26:21 -0700
From: Riccardo Iommi <r.iommi@mailcity.com>
Subject: Re: Space1999: Another Time Another Place
>So what do you think Helena did with the alternate Alan and John? Did
>their bodies disappear when the moons collided?
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>I think the most logical answer is, from a merely physical point of view, their
bodies disappeared and returned to their alternate timeline. Don't ask me where and
how!
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Date: Sun, 11 Jan 1998 23:40:14 -0700
From: Riccardo Iommi <r.iommi@mailcity.com>
Subject: Space1999: A question Another Time/Place
Sorry I'm late with Another Time/Place, but check this out: what time is it on the
alternate moonbase when commander Koenig switches off the navigation signal?
See ya
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Date: Mon, 12 Jan 1998 09:39:31 +0000
From: "Petter Ogland" <petter.ogland@dnmi.no>
Subject: Re: Space1999: Another Time Another Place
Hi all,
Brian wrote:
> Top performance from Nick Tate in this story - the scenes where Regina
> throws herself at him are truly heart rending (must be his aftershave :-) )
> and the scene where he and John find their duplicate corpses in the crashed
> Eagle is chilling to the bone. Seeing one's own dead body, like being
> buried alive, is the stuff of the worst nightmares and horror stories.
>
> This portrayal of such scenes, along with their asking the questions it
> poses (and leaving us with no definitive answer, as per The Troubled
> Spirit) is something which makes season 1 stand out from other series.
> There's usually a really heavy philosophical question asked somewhere which
> gets the viewer thinking about such things.
Good point, Brian. I've also tried to ask myself what Byrne is hinting
at in these stories. Perhaps Quintin could eloborate more on this, but
Sartre's maximes abount being "doomed to make choices" does seem to make
some kind of sense to me. Perhaps the double lives could be read as
different ways we perceive ourselfes.
> I'm not sure exactly what specific question is being asked here, as I've
> never met my alternate selves (infinite parallel universes and all that
> kind of thing), but this story seems different in that the alternate
> Alphans seem to be the same as the "normal" Alphans; reacting in the same
> way as we would expect "our" Alphans to, despite their going through
> different experiences.
The mirror universe of ANOTHER TIME ANOTHER PLACE is very different from
the similar mirror effects of the false Victor in MISSING LINK and the
evil Koenig in SEEDS OF DESTRUCTION. The destructive Koenig in SEEDS OF
DESTRUCTION is an intersting character, I think. SEEDS OF DESTRUCTION is
an episode about loyalty, it seems to me, and very much like COLLISION
COURSE, it questions the leadership structure on Alpha or how we
organize society. An issue also discussed in THE SEANCE SPECTRE and
as what you've referred to as the Moses Analogy in MISSING LINK.
Unlike SEEDS OF DESTRUCTION and THE SEANCE SPECTRE, ANOTHER TIME ANOTHER
PLACE seems less political or less occupoied with raising questions
concerning the military type of organization of Alpha. The episode
does, however, seem to raise the question about what we do if we should
happpen to meet ourselves in the doorway.
The idea of seeing oneself from the outside is a fascinating idea, I think,
if horrifying. Sandra's reaction as she sees the double Helena seems
quite appropriate.
What does it mean to meet oneself in the doorway, anyway? Some of the
best points made on ANOTHER TIME ANOTHER PLACE this week was by David
Acheson, I find. His description of the Alphans longing for settling
down was magnificent. Brilliant insight to the series!
> Three great scenes in this story get eclipsed by Victor when he tells John,
> Alan and Helena to go back to Alpha because if they're not there "When time
> corrects itself, then you will have no place to die". You just can't argue
> with that kind of statement; its effect is massive, telling them that they
> could end up in some kind of Purgatory. What an effect that would have on
> Alpha, if it happened, I dread to think. The tremendous impact of that
> line does overshadow the ending a little, but from that point onward, there
> was only one thing for John to do and that was take them back to Alpha, so
> the overshadowing is quite understandable. What scene could follow that
> and not be overshadowed?
Great point, Brian, I couldn't have agreed more.
> Possibly one of the hardest hitting scenes in the series from the point of
> view of philosophical impact - no need to be a scholar here, it hits home
> with great force. Suffice it to say that Barry Morse delivers the line
> with the gravitas it deserves, and nobody could have delivered it better.
>
> It's a strange mixture, this one. Works better than Ring Around The Moon,
> has some great scenes and some that don't work too well. Overall, the good
> outweighs the bad, so it lies just below Earthbound in my overall ratings
> thus far.
It will be interesting to hear your views on MISSING LINK, Brian, an
episode I regard very highly and find very similar to RING AROUND THE
MOON. Personally I like the style of RING AROUND THE MOON better than
ANOTHER TIME ANOTHER PLACE, perhaps EARTHBOUND too, but I regard it
nevertheless as one of the better episodes of the series and perhaps one
of Johnny Byrne's very best.
Petter
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Date: Mon, 12 Jan 1998 09:49:45 +0000
From: "Petter Ogland" <petter.ogland@dnmi.no>
Subject: Re: Space1999: Another Time Another Place
Hi all,
David Lerda wrote (commenting on Brian):
> >Top performance from Nick Tate in this story - the scenes where Regina
> >
> >throws herself at him are truly heart rending (must be his aftershave
> >:-) )
>
> There was a line in the novelization that I wished they had left in.
> When she first comes charging at him in the Medical Center and passes
> out, in the novel he says, "What was that about? I hardly know her." I
> think it would have made the scene a little more dramatic.
I think the original teleplay was excellent here. By using the dialogue
from the novel, the result seems to be something quite different.
The charming part of the way it was executed, as I see it, is that it
allows Nick Tate some superb acting, displaying a combination of care for
Regina and confusion. Come to think of it, the scenes with Regina and
Alan Carter represent in my mind some of the best work Nick Tate ever
did in the series, well apart from the excellent COLLISION COURSE where
he really outdoes himself.
Petter
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Date: Mon, 12 Jan 1998 09:59:22 +0000
From: Petter Ogland <petter.ogland@dnmi.no>
Subject: Re: Space1999: Another Time, Another Place
On Jan 12, 9:02am, Pertti.Ruismaki@datex-engstrom.com wrote:
> Subject: Re: Space1999: Another Time, Another Place
> > Where did they come up with the pronunciation for Regina? Is it a British
> > thing? Why do they say it like it is spelled Regheena?
>
> Giving the "G" a hard sound as in "give" instead of a soft sound is not
> unheard of. I kind of liked the different pronounciation.
>
> I believe that it is based on the fact that Regina is a Latin word
> (=queen) and in Latin g is pronounced that way.
>
> By the way, how are the first names of some of our favourite
> Andersons pronounced, Gerry and Gillian? Is it like Jerry and
> Jillian?
>
> -Pertti
In the SPACE:1999 DOCUMENTARY I think Gerry Anderson referes to himself
as "Jerry"...
Petter
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Date: Mon, 12 Jan 1998 10:00:29 +0000
From: Petter Ogland <petter.ogland@dnmi.no>
Subject: Re: Space1999: Another Time, Another Place
On Jan 12, 9:02am, Pertti.Ruismaki@datex-engstrom.com wrote:
> Subject: Re: Space1999: Another Time, Another Place
> > Where did they come up with the pronunciation for Regina? Is it a British
> > thing? Why do they say it like it is spelled Regheena?
>
> Giving the "G" a hard sound as in "give" instead of a soft sound is not
> unheard of. I kind of liked the different pronounciation.
>
> I believe that it is based on the fact that Regina is a Latin word
> (=queen) and in Latin g is pronounced that way.
>
> By the way, how are the first names of some of our favourite
> Andersons pronounced, Gerry and Gillian? Is it like Jerry and
> Jillian?
>
> -Pertti
In the SPACE:1999 DOCUMENTARY I think Gerry Anderson refers to himself
as "Jerry"...
Petter
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Date: Mon, 12 Jan 1998 06:46:09 EST
From: LKJ1999 <LKJ1999@aol.com>
Subject: Space1999: A question Another time/ Place.
Riccardo wrote.
Sorry I'm late with Another Time/ Place, But check this out what time is it on
the
alternate moonbase when commander Koenig switces off the navagation signal
See Ya
Riccardo.
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The clock showed a time of (3:35) AM or PM ? That I DO NOT KNOW...
Chas P. LKJ1999
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Date: Mon, 12 Jan 1998 04:51:57 -0700
From: Riccardo Iommi <r.iommi@mailcity.com>
Subject: Re: Space1999: A question Another time/ Place.
>The clock showed a time of (3:35) AM or PM ? That I DO NOT KNOW...
>
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Yeah Chas, your answer is correct: 3:35.
In this case we see how misleading are sometimes the non-digital clocks!
Should we start a campaign with Polygram to reveal whether it was AM or PM?
See ya
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Date: Mon, 12 Jan 1998 12:14:58 -0800
From: South Central <Tamazunchale@webtv.net>
Subject: Space1999: Episode by Episode
This is just a reminder that this week episode for discussion is Missing
Link. One of my personal favorites! Did anyone know that Edward
DiLorenzo went on to write a very popular motion picture (at least in
the U.S.)? Does anybody know the name of it? I will leave "spoiler
space" here and include the name below.
Mateo
spoiler space
spoiler space
The film was called, "The Idolmaker". Not SF at all.
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Date: Mon, 12 Jan 1998 19:30:40
From: David Welle <dwelle@online.dct.com>
Subject: Space1999: Off topic, but Please help! [Fwd]
Alphans,
Here's an off-topic request from James Small. He is not currently
subscribed, so please reply directly to him at
jsmall@mb.sympatico.ca
>Date: Mon, 12 Jan 1998 10:49:10 -0600
>From: James Small <jsmall@mb.sympatico.ca>
>Reply-To: jsmall@mb.sympatico.ca
>To: space1999@buffnet.net
>Subject: Off topic, but Please help!
>
>Hello all.
>
>I have a question for you all concerning a show that was run around the
>same time as 1999.
>
>Did you ever see a TV show called "Space Academy"? It was an American
>live action saturday morning kid's show that ran for one season and was
>half an hour long. It was, I think, a "Lou Schermer" or "Filmation"
>production, or something of the sort, and was followed, the next year,
>by "Jason Of Star Command", a different show. "Space Academy" starred
>Johnathan Harris as the commander! (who can forget that voice!) It had
>what I thought at the time were fairly good special effects considering
>the format. I watched the show faithfully as much as I could, but I
>haven't seen it since then. It's probably long lost now.
>
>The workhorse spacecraft of the show, much like Eagles as far as being
>the main craft, were called "Seekers" and were a very simple design.
>Nevertheless, it would be nice to get enough photographic references to
>build a model, which I have always wanted to do. I have one B&W picture
>of the ship, which I can email to anyone who wants it. Do you have or
>know anyone who would have any pictures or information of this ship at
>all?
>
>Does anyone remember this show? I can't find any info on the web. Please
>email me if you have any info!
>
>Thanx!
>
>Jim.
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