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Date: Mon, 12 Jan 1998 19:49:14 -0500
From: Jhon <jhon@pottsville.infi.net>
Subject: Space1999: Re:Spacde Academy
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> >Subject: Off topic, but Please help!
> >
> >Hello all.
> >
> >I have a question for you all concerning a show that was run around the
> >same time as 1999.
> >
> >Did you ever see a TV show called "Space Academy"? It was an American
> >live action saturday morning kid's show that ran for one season and was
> >half an hour long. It was, I think, a "Lou Schermer" or "Filmation"
> >production, or something of the sort, and was followed, the next year,
> >by "Jason Of Star Command", a different show. "Space Academy" starred
> >Johnathan Harris as the commander! (who can forget that voice!) It had
> >what I thought at the time were fairly good special effects considering
> >the format. I watched the show faithfully as much as I could, but I
> >haven't seen it since then. It's probably long lost now.
>
yes, I used to watch these shows. Johnathan Harris (Dr. Smith, Lost in
Space) was the commander. Quite a change of character, don't you
think?
Jhon
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>Hello all.
>
>I have a question for you all concerning a show that was run around the
>same time as 1999.
>
>Did you ever see a TV show called "Space Academy"? It was an American
>live action saturday morning kid's show that ran for one season and was
>half an hour long. It was, I think, a "Lou Schermer" or "Filmation"
>production, or something of the sort, and was followed, the next year,
>by "Jason Of Star Command", a different show. "Space Academy" starred
>Johnathan Harris as the commander! (who can forget that voice!) It had
>what I thought at the time were fairly good special effects considering
>the format. I watched the show faithfully as much as I could, but I
>haven't seen it since then. It's probably long lost now.</PRE>
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<BR>yes, I used to watch these shows. Johnathan Harris (Dr. Smith, Lost
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Date: Fri, 12 Jan 1996 19:03:11 -0600
From: "Mark Meskin" <plastic.gravity@newrock.com>
Subject: Re: Space1999: Off topic, but Please help! [Fwd]
Hi James,
Ive got some stuff from an old starlog I can scan and send you, its about 6
or 7 images. I won't be able to do this until Wed. though. Let me know.
- -Mark
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> From: David Welle <dwelle@online.dct.com>
> To: space1999@buffnet4.buffnet.net
> Subject: Space1999: Off topic, but Please help! [Fwd]
> Date: Monday, January 12, 1998 1:30 PM
>
> Alphans,
>
> Here's an off-topic request from James Small. He is not currently
> subscribed, so please reply directly to him at
>
> jsmall@mb.sympatico.ca
>
> >Date: Mon, 12 Jan 1998 10:49:10 -0600
> >From: James Small <jsmall@mb.sympatico.ca>
> >Reply-To: jsmall@mb.sympatico.ca
> >To: space1999@buffnet.net
> >Subject: Off topic, but Please help!
> >
> >Hello all.
> >
> >I have a question for you all concerning a show that was run around the
> >same time as 1999.
> >
> >Did you ever see a TV show called "Space Academy"? It was an American
> >live action saturday morning kid's show that ran for one season and was
> >half an hour long. It was, I think, a "Lou Schermer" or "Filmation"
> >production, or something of the sort, and was followed, the next year,
> >by "Jason Of Star Command", a different show. "Space Academy" starred
> >Johnathan Harris as the commander! (who can forget that voice!) It had
> >what I thought at the time were fairly good special effects considering
> >the format. I watched the show faithfully as much as I could, but I
> >haven't seen it since then. It's probably long lost now.
> >
> >The workhorse spacecraft of the show, much like Eagles as far as being
> >the main craft, were called "Seekers" and were a very simple design.
> >Nevertheless, it would be nice to get enough photographic references to
> >build a model, which I have always wanted to do. I have one B&W picture
> >of the ship, which I can email to anyone who wants it. Do you have or
> >know anyone who would have any pictures or information of this ship at
> >all?
> >
> >Does anyone remember this show? I can't find any info on the web. Please
> >email me if you have any info!
> >
> >Thanx!
> >
> >Jim.
>
> Reply-To: jsmall@mb.sympatico.ca
>
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Date: Mon, 12 Jan 1998 20:11:07 -0600
From: jcharles@portage.net (Mike Beaulieu)
Subject: Space1999: SPACE 1999 Soundtrack LP
Howdy,
While looking around in eBay for something that might interest me,
I can across an item that might be of interest for someone on this
mailing list. It is a SPACE 1999 Soundtrack LP.
The url to eBay is:
http://cayman.ebay.com/aw/index.html
Do a search on space 1999 or any item you might be interested in.
This is the info. I've got on it, for those who might be interested
in purchasing it.
Item #4007021
Current bid $21.50
Time left for bidding 2 days, 8 hrs, 7 min, 42 sec
Started 01/08/98 02:08:54 PST bilia:Television
Ends 01/15/98 02:08:54 PST
Description
Bary Gray's original television soundtrack music for Barbara Bain/Martin
Landau space epic. RCA ABL1-1422, dated 1976. Still sealed. Notch in
cover. To the best of my knowledge never reissued on CD. Buyer pays $3
additional for shipping via US Priority Mail.
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Date: Tue, 13 Jan 1998 07:40:51 GMT
From: potter@globalnet.co.uk (Chris Potter)
Subject: Re: Space1999: Comet Miniatures
On Sun, 11 Jan 1998 23:00:11 -0200, you wrote:
> Hi all !
>
> Does anybody know if the 1/144 Eagle Transporter model kit (from Teruo
>Yamada) is available at Comet Miniatures? I'm waiting for this model =
since
>January, 1997 !
> Any help would be appreciated.
The latest info I have from Comet is that the model will be available
in mid-February. The price will be approx =A340.00 plus p+p. However, I
have heard from Tony James that the kit is limited to only 100 copies,
so you'd all better get your orders in in advance !
Chris Potter
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Date: Mon, 12 Jan 1998 23:52:54 -0700
From: Riccardo Iommi <r.iommi@mailcity.com>
Subject: Space1999: A question: "your" first episode
Hi Alphans,
maybe someone among the fans did not start watching Space 1999 from the Breakaway
episode. Which is your very first contact with Moonbase Alpha?
Mine is Missing Link, and I was only 6 years old.
What about you?
See ya all
Riccardo
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Date: Tue, 13 Jan 1998 00:27:45 -0800
From: South Central <Tamazunchale@webtv.net>
Subject: Re: Space1999: A question: "your" first episode
I really shouldn't respond to this but I remember watching it right from
its debut with Breakaway. Now here is a question. I distinctly
remember hearing coming attractions for next weeks episode about halfway
through year one. "A two hour episode of Space 1999!" I remember that
the scenes shown in advance were (I discovered later) from War Games.
I was grounded that night and not allowed to watch TV. It was a
Wednesday, the WPIX station out of NYC (which was running the show on
Saturday or Sunday evenings at 6:30pm. So the Wednesday showing was
(pardon the pun) "doubly" special.
I always thought that War Games in its subsequent showings was trimmed
to one hour. I know now that this is probably not true. Well, it is
not true. I can only imagine that that special Wednesday showing was a
double feature.
Does anybody know the truth behind this? Are there TV Guide magazine
archives?
I've waited over 20 years for an answer to this question.
Mateo
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Date: Tue, 13 Jan 1998 00:45:10 -0800 (PST)
From: Marcy K <mk@wizard.com>
Subject: Re: Space1999: A question: "your" first episode
My first episode of 1999 was Space Brain, which I vividly remember
watching to this day. My Mom and I watched together and laughed very hard
at the overflowing washing machine; all of the philosophical stuff going
right over my 7 year old head. I was hooked anyway, and watched
religiously from then on.
WPIX showed 1999 Saturdays at 7pm, which is where and when I watched it. I
still have some old videotapes from their second showing of 1999, a few
years later, late night (3 am or so). The tapes are horrible, incredibly
fuzzy and often unwatchable, as I wasn't awake to hold the TV antenna just
so and pick up Channel 11 decently! They do have some wonderfully corny
late-night local NYC commercials though.
I don't remember the Wednesday night showing of 1999 at all.
Marcy
On Tue, 13 Jan 1998, South Central wrote:
> I always thought that War Games in its subsequent showings was trimmed
> to one hour. I know now that this is probably not true. Well, it is
> not true. I can only imagine that that special Wednesday showing was a
> double feature.
>
> Does anybody know the truth behind this? Are there TV Guide magazine
> archives?
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Date: Tue, 13 Jan 1998 00:55:39 -0800
From: South Central <Tamazunchale@webtv.net>
Subject: Fwd: Re: Space1999: A question: "your" first episode
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Date: Tue, 13 Jan 1998 00:53:20 -0800
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I think you don't remember the Wednesday showing because it took place
before Space Brain was shown. I seem to remember it starting at 6:30
not 7:00. I always wondered about this but my father suggested it was
to cut into the 7:00 draw because people would already be involved in
the episode (that's why I remember this--plus it is an unusual slot).
Of course, everything I have said may be, and probably is, wrong.
Thanks for everything Marcy.
Mateo
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Date: Tue, 13 Jan 1998 01:00:16 -0800
From: South Central <Tamazunchale@webtv.net>
Subject: Space1999: THANKS
This is just a special late night thanks to Marcy and Robert. They were
the first two people I met on the list, and they made me feel welcome
and at home. I remember being nervous about my first post!! I worrried
and worried lest I say something everyone had already discussed to
death. Seems funny now.
An extra special not of thanks to Ian and Re--who I now count among my
friends.
Hey, must be that leftover holiday cheer!
Mateo
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Date: Tue, 13 Jan 1998 09:18:37 GMT
From: potter@globalnet.co.uk (Chris Potter)
Subject: Re: Space1999: Comet Miniatures
On Tue, 13 Jan 1998 00:20:39 -0800, you wrote:
>Thanks for the word. What is this kit like and what is the size in
>inches/cm?
The kit is extremely good (well the master was anyway - I saw it about
6 months ago). It will be 1:144 scale - approximately 6 inches long
and made of resin and white metal. The detail is better than the old
Airfix / MPC kit, with open framework structures etc, and it not only
comes with the standard Transporter Pod, but also the Laboratory pod
and booster unit. See Robert Ruiz's Cybrary for my detailed report on
the model in the currently available collectibles section.
I have my kit on order, and expect to be telephoned as soon as it's
available - I should have one of the first kits and will post full
details as soon as I've opened it.
Chris Potter
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Date: Tue, 13 Jan 1998 10:38:56 +0000
From: Petter Ogland <petter.ogland@dnmi.no>
Subject: Re: Space1999: Another Time, Another Place / Missing Link
Hi all,
In his introduction to our discussion of ANOTHER TIME ANOTHER PLACE
last week, David Acheson wrote:
> Overall I would say ANOTHER TIME, ANOTHER PLACE is one of my favourites
> from year one - definitely on the best 10 list of the series. Like BLACK
> SUN, I did not care too much for it as a kid but appreciate it more
> today as an adult. Again, I have learned to appreciate good thinking
> stories over big budget special effects. (Although there are some cool
> effect sequences in this episode.)
>
> I agree with Petter Ogland that this episode also marks the turning
> point for the series. The first five episodes were essentially early
> scripts that were worked on by various soles at the time the series was
> taking its first steps. In many ways, they were experimental episodes at
> a time a direction was trying to be forged out of the show. ANOTHER
> TIME, ANOTHER PLACE was the first fully scripted Johnny Byrne episode to
> be filmed and definitely set the gothic, philosophical tone much of the
> rest of the series would follow.
This is very much the way I feel about ANOTHER TIME ANOTHER PLACE. The
change from the early episodes to the later ones was a gradual one,
however, and it was not nescessarily for the better, I feel, perhaps
finding the early experimental episodes to be some of the best in the series.
The next installation, MISSING LINK, is also a rather experimental
episode, I feel, not too unlike RING AROUND THE MOON in many ways,
perhaps not too surprising as this was also written by Edward di Lorenzo
and directed by Ray Austin.
It will be interesting to read the discussion concerning MISSING LINK.
My impression so far is that there seems to be much more unison
appraisal for MISSING LINK than for it's older sister RING AROUND THE
MOON. For me, however, the two episodes seem very related, both in
terms of writing and execution.
Very much like RING AROUND THE MOON, I feel MISSING LINK is a discussion
on machines, conciousness and intelligence. While many of the early
episodes of SPACE: 1999 investigate ideas in 2001: A SPACE ODYSSEY, the
di Lorenzo manuscripts seem, for me at least, to be the ones that goes
most deeply into the philosophical aspects in Clarke and Kubrick's work.
What seems to be a central theme in 2001 is the development of
technology and intelligence; the evolution of intelligence per se
from the dawn of man, when we were hardly distinguishable from the apes,
suddenly developing the simplest form of technology, the club, via the
most impressive technology man could create by the end of the 21st century,
the space technology, then how intelligence trancends the humans by
the machnies (HAL-9000), and at last the odyssey of man into himself.
Much of the critique of human society in 2001, perhaps trying to make
the computers more sympathetic than the humans, is somewhat mirrored in
the social critique in MISSING LINK, I feel. The Zennites, dressed like
fantasy versions of Flemish renaissance people, live a life of pure
though. Zenno is a world of light and though, of pure enlightment,
a mathematicians paradise.
This kind of life, the life of the scientists, and perhaps a mirror of
Alpha itself, is contrasted to the less pleasant side of science such
as experiments with animals. The questions about experiments with
animals is a central point when the Zennites are about the make experiments
with humans as the Zennites seem to feel towards the humans as the
humans feels towards the animals.
Di Lorenzo seems to be making a point here about the "objectivity" of
science, I think. On one hand, because of the objectivity the scientists
have to disregard any feelings that might be contributed to the animal
subject or any other object they are investigating. On the other hand,
as Vanna experiences, the only profound understanding of anythin comes from
being able to project ones owns feelings into the subject, especially if one
is an athropologist as Raan proposes to be.
Very much like in RING AROUND THE MOON, di Lorenzo seems to be interested
in this kind of self reference, the problem of analysing something
objectively without taking part. In RING AROUND THE MOON the eye of
the Triton probe functioned almost like a microscope, investigating Alpha
as if it was inhabited by ants or some kind of virus. In MISSING LINK
the observers have taken a more humanoid form, but much of the central
idea to the plot seem to be the same.
What is the motivation of Raan, anyway? Early in the episode he explaines
that the Zennites need to fulfil their knowledge of themselves, and as
the humans represent a missing link in their chain of evolution, the
way humans function with feelings and all need to be investigated in order
to understand why a life by pure though does not seem to work, or does it?
Raan proposes to do experiments with Koenig. What does the experiment with
the demonlike Victor signify? Well, more on this later.
Personally I find RING AROUND THE MOON and MISSING LINK to be two of the
most interesting episodes in the series, much because of their though
provoking themes and their ability to accentuate problems and ideas that
are as interesting today as they were when they were proposed, perhaps
because there does not seem to be any simple answers.
In this manner I feel more strongly for RING AROUND THE MOON and MISSING
LINK than, say, ANOTHER TIME ANOTHER PLACE. While ANOTHER TIME ANOTHER
PLACE does seem to have a lot to say about the human experience, I feal,
at least for the present, that the problems raised in RING AROUND THE MOON
and MISSING LINK are somewhat more profound, at least it feels so in my case.
Perhaps I relate more to these episodes as I am a person spending most of my
working hours with computers and mathematics. Perhaps.
What are your thoughts on MISSING LINK, David? Tony? We havn't heard much
from you after your excellent analysis of BLACK SUN, have we? I remember
your comments on BLACK SUN stimulated abundance of reflections from other
list members. You haven't said too much on MISSING LINK yet. And what
about you Quintin, I was surprised we didn't hear more of your views on
ANOTHER TIME ANOTHER PLACE, I thought this was a kind of episode that
could trigger of endless philosophical and religious associations. I'm
also longing for your contributions, Pat. You are certainly one of the
most fascinating contributers to this list. I relish your letters.
Petter
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