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Date: Wed, 14 Jan 1998 17:31:56 EST
From: LKJ1999 <LKJ1999@aol.com>
Subject: Space1999: Did You notice...MIssing Link.
Hi All... Missing Link.
Did anyone on this list notice anything new added to Main Mission?
This is the first time we see this ( THING) Added to Main Mission...
We did not see this thing in the first six episode's...
Chas P LKJ1999
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Date: Wed, 14 Jan 1998 17:17:30 EST
From: LKJ1999 <LKJ1999@aol.com>
Subject: Space1999: Missing Link
My comments on Missing Link...
I love this episode. It's NO.3 on My list of best liked episode's. From Y-one
NO. of times the word Eagle was said. (16)
NO. of landing's (1)
NO. of lift off's (1) And a very good Eagle crash...
Bloopers. None that I could see. Except for the paper Eagle.
I think Alan and Victor where at their best in this episode...
I also liked the part where Kano get's coffee spilled on Him...
Well all I can say is I love this episode...
It seem's some of You on this list . Do not like this Episode...
Chas P. LKJ1999
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Date: Wed, 14 Jan 1998 17:39:51 EST
From: djlerda@juno.com
Subject: Re: Space1999: Missing Link rant
On Tue, 13 Jan 1998 20:41:40 -0500 Patricia Embury
<Patriemb@sprintmail.com> writes:
> The injuries irritate me also.
>Again, Carter gets off with a minor concussion, while Koenig, and more
>importantly the others, have more serious injuries. Granted, Victor
>and
>Sandra weren't restrained, as Koeing and Carter were, but Carter
>should
>have been hurt worse if you add up the force they were traveling vs
>the
>force of impact.
Ah, but that would violate Bergman's First Law: All Eagle Piolts named
Alan Carter always survive Eagle crashes with only minor injuries. It is
the opposite of Bergman's Second Law: All Moonbase Alpha Personnel with
Purple Sleeves Die / Get Injured (this is a corolllary of the Red Sleeved
Starship Enterprise Personnel Principle).
Seriously, before Alan left Earth for his tour of duty Alpha he went on
vacation in a little town called the Shire. There he purchased a Ring of
Power from a hooded figure riding a large horse. Perfectly logical
explanation why he survives explosions, fistfights, monsters, time warps,
etc. without so much as a discreet patch of band-aid on his head.
Enough physics for one day. My head hurts.
David J Lerda, djlerda@juno.com
"Just because we haven't experienced something
doesn't mean it doesn't exist" - John Koenig
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Date: Thu, 15 Jan 1998 09:59:41 +1100
From: Glen_Mcbride@baynetworks.com (Glen Mcbride)
Subject: Space1999: Models
Hi everyone
Just an update for those of you who are into modelling, 21st Century marketing (http://users.netinfo.com.au/21stcentury/) seem to have a few more Space:1999 models available.
Rather than post the file, here is the URL for their catalogue page that describes what they have - http://users.netinfo.com.au/21stcentury/catp13.gif
(Note: I'm in no way connected with this organisation and to date have not purchased from them, but intend to soon!)
Enjoy
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Date: Wed, 14 Jan 1998 18:06:09 EST
From: djlerda@juno.com
Subject: Space1999: Missing Link rant
Don't ask me what happened with that last message folks, but here is the
one I meant to send:
On Tue, 13 Jan 1998 20:41:40 -0500 Patricia Embury
<Patriemb@sprintmail.com> writes:
> The injuries irritate me also.
>Again, Carter gets off with a minor concussion, while Koenig, and more
>importantly the others, have more serious injuries. Granted, Victor
>and
>Sandra weren't restrained, as Koeing and Carter were, but Carter
>should
>have been hurt worse if you add up the force they were traveling vs
>the
>force of impact.
Ah, but that would violate Bergman's First Law: All Eagle Piolts named
Alan Carter always survive Eagle crashes with only minor injuries. It is
the opposite of Bergman's Second Law: All Moonbase Alpha Personnel with
Purple Sleeves Die / Get Injured (this is a corolllary of the Red Sleeved
Starship Enterprise Personnel Principle).
Seriously, before Alan left Earth for his tour of duty Alpha he went on
vacation in a little town called the Shire. There he purchased a Ring of
Power from a hooded figure riding a large horse. Perfectly logical
explanation why he survives explosions, fistfights, monsters, time warps,
etc. without so much as a discreet patch of band-aid on his head.
Enough physics for one day. My head hurts.
David J Lerda, djlerda@juno.com
"Just because we haven't experienced something
doesn't mean it doesn't exist" - John Koenig
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Date: Wed, 14 Jan 1998 20:48:22 -0500
From: Patricia Embury <Patriemb@sprintmail.com>
Subject: Re: Space1999: Missing Link rant
Petter Ogland wrote:
> Hi all,
<snip>
> I found the camera work excellent in this installment. Creative camera
> work of this kind seems to be a trademark of Ray Austin. The only one
> who comes close to it is David Tomblin, I think, perhaps in his
> THE INFERNAL MACHINE in particular, which includes some rather fancy
> cinematography.
>
> I can't see what should be laughable about MISSING LINK, however, particulary
> not the spinning camera effect, which was excellent in my opinion.
I think the spinning camera combined with the blinking lights, was too much
for the viewer to digest in such a short time. If they had cut out the blinking
lights, it might have played better for me. The two combined, moved the sequence
from creative cinematography to an almost garish state.
> I must admit, on the other hand, that the Koenig's nightmare sequence didn't
> work
> all that well with me either, but I didn't think of it as particulary bad,
> just that it was a bit too theatrical for my taste. As it was rather short,
> I felt it was ok for illustrating the emotional disturbance as an aftermath
> of Raan's first experiment.
I'm glad you mentioned this, because it brought up another point. Raan told
Koenig that this was his first experiment. Since Koenig "knew" this was the
first experiment; he quickly figured it out, and told Raan that he knew it wasn't
the real Victor, I think this nightmare was a reaction to his kidnapping.
> I thought this was a rather fine sequence, and by the way, I also liked
> "The Elephant Man". Come to think of it, the directoral styles of Ray
> Austin and David Lynch don't seem all that different. Lynch also has
> this obsession with dreams and nightmares and an very emotional and
> creative way of filming.
>
I liked the Elephant Man also. Although Koenig values acting on emotion,
allows an emotional component to influence his decisions (i.e., Collision
Course), the sequence was overdone, too theatrical. If Landau had stared, or
confronted Raan directly, eye to eye, face to face, screaming the lines at him,
it would have seemed more in character for me.
> I view this differently, but whether Koenig was in love or not is an
> interesting question. If he were simulating he would have to do this
> in a very convincing way as the Zennites were capable of reading his
> mind. After having watched this episode several times I'm now under the
> impression that he was actually in love. He was doomed to spend the
> rest of his life on Zenno, so perhaps this was the best he could make out
> of it.
>
I agree, this is definitely an interesting question to discuss. I think
Koenig has had to learn to guard his thoughts, and his expressions, in dealing
with the politics involved in Command, both on earth and in dealing with
Simmonds. Koenig has demonstrated himself to be a very passionate and emotional
person, not the type to give up on anything. I don't think he would settle for
life and love with an alien, and ditch Helena so easily. He and Helena have a
history, apparantly a good relationship, from the way Helena reacts to the
predicament. Maybe it's just the hopeless romantic in me, but I don't see how
anyone could just throw that away.
> It is particulary interesting when Sandra enters, I think. Koenig is
> still under the impression that it is all a dream, and that he is not
> able to return to Alpha. When he finally decides to return he does not
> seem to bear too many harsh thoughts for the Zennites. Quite to the
> contrary it seems.
The fact that Koenig didn't hold any harsh feeling towards Raan puzzled me.
Raan and John discuss lessons they learn, and seem to be great friends. I don't
think I could be as forgiving to someone who wanted to stick me under a
microscope for the rest of my life.
>
> In di Lorenzo's previous effort, RING AROUND THE MOON, Carter seemed rather
> annoyed by Koenig. I think this 180 degree turn seems very fit for the
> type of character Carter seems to represent, emotionally driven, popular
> but extremely dependent on his superiors.
I think this would take some time. Do you know how long of a time between Ring
around the moon and this episode occur? I'd have to look at the timeline in the
Cybermuseum. The conflict between Carter and Koenig added spice to the show.
Carter is a leader, but he needs to know what is expected of him, so he can
fulfill his duty. He needs a C.O that can and will challenge him. I think the
show lost a little something when they eliminated some of the conflict between
the two characters. Carter didn't have a big role in Earthbound. I don't
remember any conflict between the two.
> Peter Cushing is one of my favourite actors. I just saw him cast as Osric
> in Sir Laurence Olivier's "Hamlet" (1948). He certainly developed quite a
> lot since then, but did a remarkable role there as well, much better than
> Robin Williams in the 1997 Brannagh version, I think.
Peter Cushing is a wonderful actor. I'm glad they cast him in this role,
because his sinister-like presence added to his performance. I would have liked
to see his role deepened somewhat, made more meaningful. It just seemed so
superficial, for lack of a better word, almost like a comic book portrayal of a
mad scientist. Cushing was so good as Tarkin, because it was such a meatier
role. Raan needed more depth. I realize you won't get Shakespeare in a one-hour
show, but so much can be done in the limited frame of time.
>
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Date: Wed, 14 Jan 1998 18:22:55 -0700
From: "Robert Ashley Ruiz" <espresso@dnai.com>
Subject: Space1999: Space: 1999 Models
Per Glenn McBride's message, I believe the models at 21st Century
Marketing are the same as the Comet Miniatures models. However, one
area David and Joanne at 21st Century Marketing seem to have a lock
on at the moment is four Sci-Fi modeling how-to videos from Martin
Bower. I haven't seen these available anywhere else and am working
with David to get them into the Cybrary's collectibles section
(waiting for better scans). David doesn't think there's any 1999
content in these videos but some of you might be interested anyway.
Have a look at:
http://users.netinfo.com.au/21stcentury/
The Bower videos are in the catalog in the:
VIDEOS/Martin Bower Sci-Fi modeller's how-to videos
section.
The exact page URL is:
http://users.netinfo.com.au/21stcentury/catp16.gif
Robert
Robert Ruiz (cybrarian@cybrary1999.com)
San Francisco, California USA
Cybrarian of the Space: 1999 Cybrary at:
http://www.cybrary1999.com
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Date: Wed, 14 Jan 1998 21:49:19 -0600
From: "Mark Meskin" <plastic.gravity@newrock.com>
Subject: Re: Space1999: Missing (the boat) Link
Hi Peter,
I hope you did not think I was being personal about Missing Link, its just
that IMHO its clearly is one of the low(est) spots in the Series. If you
like it, hey that's great.
OK, now your turn to hit me: My Top 5
1. Dragon's Domain-
the pentultimate Space:1999- a man obsessed and enough space horror to
be forever imprinted on my 7 or 8 year old brain. Great music!
2. Black Sun-
this IS Space:1999- speculative, erie, philosophical and religous in a
story that goes beyond the Series
3. Wargames-
great concept, great sfx, very moody, doomed episode.
4. The last Sunset
Again, this IS Space:1999. The Alphans find what they've been searching
for, right under their noses......and then lose it again.
5. Breakwaway
I actually think this is one of the weaker teleplays, but I like it
because its the introduction to a show that is so different and unusual and
groundbreaking. Here we have people living and working in Space, not 200 or
300 years into the future, but only 25, and they don't have magical
hardware either. The technogoodies are mostly a logical extension of our
modern(circa 1975)day technology. The people are likeable, proffesional
and 3 dimensional, and they don't have reset switches.
If you gave me six choices, I'd pick Testament of Arcadia as well, just for
its beautiful music and tastefull narration. The Arcadia as Eden story I
thought was crap though :-)
Ok, rip em up Petter!
- -Mark
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> From: Petter Ogland <petter.ogland@dnmi.no>
> To: Space1999@buffnet4.buffnet.net
> Subject: Re: Space1999: Missing (the boat) Link
> Date: Wednesday, January 14, 1998 6:04 AM
>
> Hi all,
>
> Mark wrote:
>
> > Pat hit many of the the points about this pile o crap. Top 3 worst
episode.
> > Only Ring are the Moon and Rules of Luton were worse.
>
> Oh dear! On my list MISSING LINK rates one of the top 5 best episodes I
> believe, together with RING AROUND THE MOON and others. RULES OF LUTON
> is not one of my favourties, however, although I think it gives some
> insight to how Fred Freiberger was thinking about Sci-Fi, not too unlike
> his two other scripts.
>
> > Everyone is SO out
> > of character. Its funny, I didn't remember this episode from my
childhood,
> > and when I fist read the synopsis for it, I thought, Hey what a great
> > script idea. Then I saw it..ugh. The blurb I read filled my mind with
> > Koenig being found by an alien race after his Eagle crashed and then
the
> > doctors slowly coming the realization that Koenig is really an ancient
> > ancestor of theirs.
>
> This sounds nice. I suppose this could have made fine premise for an
> interesting episode too.
>
> > What we got was pure garbage. Raan's little mind
> > games with Koenig make no sense at all, ...
>
> It made perfect sense to me, in fact one of the most meaningful episodes
> in the series as I see it. Lots of interesting ideas being discussed in
> this one, I feel, just like BREAKAWAY, BLACK SUN and others, an episodes
> that continues to be interesting during repeated viewing, perhaps, just
> like RING AROUND THE MOON, an episode that even improves by repeated
> viewing as there is so much happening.
>
> Some of the best episodes are like symphonies, I feel. During the first
> hearing one often just catches some of the surface themes and structures,
> while upen repeated listing, new ideas and structures are revealed.
MISSING
> LINK is definitely such an episode, for me at least.
>
> By the way, what are your favourite episodes, Mark? Perhaps I like
> some of the things you like, although you don't seem to share my
enthusiasm
> for what I consider to be definitive highlights of the series.
>
>
> Petter
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Date: Wed, 14 Jan 1998 20:24:29 -0700
From: "Robert Ashley Ruiz" <espresso@dnai.com>
Subject: Space1999: Scans You May be Interested In
If you click Maya's face in the montage on the cover page of the
Cybrary, for a short time you can see (and copy) the following:
Jeri Ryan from Star Trek Voyager:
TV Guide cover image of Jeri Ryan from Star Trek Voyager.
TV Guide image of Jeri Ryan and Terry Farrell from Star Trek Voyager.
TV Guide cover image of Jeri Ryan and Kate Mulgrew from Star Trek
Voyager. Barbara Bain from Diagnosis Murder:
TV Guide image from Diagnosis Murder (left to right, Robert Culp,
Barbara Bain, Dick Van Dyke, Patrick Macnee, Robert Vaughn) Dinky
Space: 1999 Eagle Literature (courtesy William Adkins, Jr.):
Dinky cover page image
Dinky back page image
Close-up of Dinky Eagles image
I thought some the non-U.S. list members might like to see these
American television directory publication pictures.
Thanks for the Dinky Eagle stuff William, I'll get this back to you
in tomorrow's mail.
Robert
Robert Ruiz (cybrarian@cybrary1999.com)
San Francisco, California USA
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