From: owner-space1999@buffnet4.buffnet.net (space1999-digest) To: space1999-digest@buffnet4.buffnet.net Subject: space1999-digest V1 #407 Reply-To: Sender: owner-space1999@buffnet4.buffnet.net Errors-To: owner-space1999@buffnet4.buffnet.net Precedence: bulk space1999-digest Monday, January 19 1998 Volume 01 : Number 407 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 19 Jan 1998 07:40:34 -0500 From: Jhon <jhon@pottsville.infi.net> Subject: Space1999: Piri Perhaps, one of my favourite episodes, The Guardian of Piri spends half an episode not with the Guardian, but with the Guardian's helper. I guess a planet-sized machine couldn't fit on Alpha to heal Koenig's wounds. Anyway, that's one of my personal peeves; the other concerns Kano and his brain implant experiment. First of all, why do we only hear of this experiment now? It's an interesting tool and could be used more than once. Secondly, why does Dr. Russell explain the history of the experiment to a bunch of nurses aides and technicians? Does she feel the need to fill them with information? Are they going to be promoted to doctor? I feel that this scene could have been shortened to allow for more development of Kano on the planet. Kano could have become part of the force of the guardian, along with the servant of the guardian. He could have walked out of that circular portal with her. The exodus seemed quite short. A typical exodus would take at least 24 hours. There are simply not enough eagles to carry 300 people. I didn't notice any eagles returning to Alpha, besides the one supposedly left for John. Maybe the Guardian transported the remaining Alphans to Piri and let everyone think that they were carried by eagle. I really enjoy the music from this episode. Well, I shouldn't say music, but rather, interesting background sounds. They added to the mystery of Piri. Someone on the set designer crew really enjoys the color red; did you notice how many episodes use red as the primary color of the planet background or landscape? It does really make everything look vibrant. The servant of the guardian is very convincing. Every Alphan save one was lured by her gentle cooing. I would have thought that at least one other Alphan would not be affected, particularly, Alan. The final planet scene is both bizarre and excellent. The use of soap bubbles as the planet is coming back to life is so simple, yet it is used so well that it seems natural. Cool use of a cheap special effect. I really enjoy the shot of the moon moving out of orbit. Crowds of Alphans scurrying to the eagles is also quite different for S99. You can even see someone trip and twist her ankle. Very realistic in the sense of mass hysteria. Where did they get the name Piri? If the planet was never before seen, how was this name decided upon and why did it agree with the name that the servant of the guardian used? We hear Victor use the name after his collapse, but the guardian had not directly contacted any Alphan yet. Was the name implanted into computer and her database by the Guardian? Did victor have a fascinating dream which revealed the true name of the planet? Had Kano connected himself to computer without Helena's knowledge? Questions, questions, questions!!! They need to be answered. jhon *********************************************************** Online Alpha - The Space: 1999 Mailing List To unsubscribe: send email to majordomo@buffnet.net and in the body put unsubscribe space1999 *********************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 19 Jan 1998 12:19:45 -0500 From: Slawomir Kmiec <slawek@ican.net> Subject: RE: Space1999: OT: DVD player I am not very active on the list but I read almost everything. I have a PIONEER combo player DVD / Laser Disk. - -- Slawomir Kmiec - -----Original Message----- From: LKJ1999 [SMTP:LKJ1999@aol.com] Sent: Sunday, January 18, 1998 6:26 PM To: Space1999@buffnet.net Subject: Space1999: OT: DVD player Hi All... Who on this list has a DVD player. Or thinking of getting DVD anytime soon??? Chas P. LKJ1999 *********************************************************** Online Alpha - The Space: 1999 Mailing List To unsubscribe: send email to majordomo@buffnet.net and in the body put unsubscribe space1999 *********************************************************** *********************************************************** Online Alpha - The Space: 1999 Mailing List To unsubscribe: send email to majordomo@buffnet.net and in the body put unsubscribe space1999 *********************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 19 Jan 1998 12:22:20 -0500 From: Slawomir Kmiec <slawek@ican.net> Subject: RE: Space1999: O.T. Aol price hike In my dealings with AOL vs ISP I had problems running TELNET (which = happened to be very critical to what I was doing) when connected to OAL. - -- Slawomir Kmiec - -----Original Message----- From: Mark Meskin [SMTP:plastic.gravity@newrock.com] Sent: Sunday, January 18, 1998 6:05 PM To: Artist0161; space1999@buffnet.net Subject: Re: Space1999: O.T. Aol price hike Jump ship anyway! I'm only paying 12 bucks a month now from a local = ISP.=20 I used to have AOL(bout 2 years ago) and have never regreted leaving.(Please, lets not start an AOL vs ISP war) You'll save money, and get a jump in speed too. - -Mark - ---------- > From: Artist0161 <Artist0161@aol.com> > To: space1999@buffnet.net > Subject: Space1999: O.T. Aol price hike > Date: Sunday, January 18, 1998 4:05 PM >=20 > Any one out there hear anything about AOL jacking their prices up to 39.95 in > march. Supposedly a former employee is saying this is so. I received = an E-Mail > about it. Now before anyone out there accuses me of proliferating a = hoax or > an internet myth...I am just asking if anyone on the list has any info about > it I am not confirming its validity!, I just want to know if anyone = else has > heard anything concerning this. I have contacted AOL about it & they = deny that > the rumor is true, the only thing they would say is they are going through a > systems upgrade in march. As for me, if they hike the rates I will = find a > different provider. >=20 >=20 >=20 > Artist0161@aol.com > *********************************************************** > Online Alpha - The Space: 1999 Mailing List > To unsubscribe: send email to majordomo@buffnet.net and > in the body put unsubscribe space1999 > *********************************************************** *********************************************************** Online Alpha - The Space: 1999 Mailing List To unsubscribe: send email to majordomo@buffnet.net and in the body put unsubscribe space1999 *********************************************************** *********************************************************** Online Alpha - The Space: 1999 Mailing List To unsubscribe: send email to majordomo@buffnet.net and in the body put unsubscribe space1999 *********************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 19 Jan 1998 13:03:35 EST From: QGMorrow <QGMorrow@aol.com> Subject: Space1999: Guardian of Piri Alphans, "Guardian of Piri" is really a smashing episode. Without delving into all of the technical things that make this episode so grand, I would say only that the moral of the story is quite profound. Namely, that there is something intrinsically human about failure, pain, death, struggle and labor. Yes, Guardian of Piri is an indictment of the principial escapism of the drug culture. But more than that, it shows in high resolution that without the existential struggles of work, pain, death, etc., we humans are worthless. Quintin *********************************************************** Online Alpha - The Space: 1999 Mailing List To unsubscribe: send email to majordomo@buffnet.net and in the body put unsubscribe space1999 *********************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 19 Jan 1998 10:19:19 -0800 From: South Central <Tamazunchale@webtv.net> Subject: Re: Space1999: Guardian of Piri The travel time from Zenno to Piri is not stated in the episode. In the novelization they are in the same system or at least in the same system as the planet they were reconnoitering in the beginning of Missing Link. Notice that the Eagle pilot says, "This one's a weirdy." This indicates that they've been to other worlds--WHAT other worlds? Terra Nova and that unknown planet in Missing Link (I don't think it is Zenno. I think Zenno is far away. The fact that they were investingating a planet when Raan interfered does not prove that that is Zenno, If I remember correctly, in the novelization it is NOT Zenno. This would mean that the pictures in the Cybrary--the full planet shots--are mislabeled,)? Earth? Meta (if not Terra Nova)? That's four, I guess it works. Any comment? Mateo (someone forward this to Robert) *********************************************************** Online Alpha - The Space: 1999 Mailing List To unsubscribe: send email to majordomo@buffnet.net and in the body put unsubscribe space1999 *********************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 19 Jan 1998 14:05:25 From: David Welle <dwelle@online.dct.com> Subject: Space1999: "Guardian of Piri" -- and Other Meanderings Alphans: I think my "Missing Link" analysis was short a few links worth of organization. Obviously, my analytical writing skills need more working out after several months of non-use. My apologies if it was an annoying read. Anyway, even though I'll be rewatching and reviewing "Guardian of Piri" sometime later this week, I figured I'd point out a different piece I did on Piri, a short piece of speculative fiction on the possible background and history of Piri that I wrote nearly two years ago. It's currently at: http://www.gbonline.com/~dwelle/s19piri.html If you don't care to see lengthy 'historical' speculation on how the Pirians doomed themselves, and prefer the episode pretty much 'as is,' don't follow the link. :-) BTW, I've noticed some discussion about the possible sequence of events and relative locations of planets such as Piri and Zenno to each other. I don't know if anyone else mentioned this, but I would encourage people to check out Kevin McCorry's "Space: 1999 Chronology," which is at my site. Most germane to the particulars of these recent episodes is in Part 4. It's a very interesting and plausable interpretation. I had never thought of Zenno & Piri being in the same star system before. I'll have to compare the appearance of the planets in these two episodes as well. BTW, that reminds me that I'll be adding some more episode snapshots to the Chronology soon -- probably getting in lockstep with the current "Episode by Episode" order. Later, - ---- David Welle dwelle@online.dct.com http://www.gbonline.com/~dwelle/s19.html *********************************************************** Online Alpha - The Space: 1999 Mailing List To unsubscribe: send email to majordomo@buffnet.net and in the body put unsubscribe space1999 *********************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 19 Jan 1998 12:39:40 -0800 From: Tamazunchale@webtv.net (South Central) Subject: Re: Space1999: "Guardian of Piri" -- and Other Meanderings Once again my VCR is broke (actually it is now in the trash--or rather was, I put it in the corner trash barrel and someone fished it out) so I can't watch the episodes again. BUT I have always understood that the way the Guardian gave the Pirians the "Peace of Piri" was by "making them perfect" . This means by slowing and eventually stopping time for them. I have not seen this idea in the posts so far. I did not make this up. I either got it from the episode itself or from the novelization. I think it is in the dialogue spoken by the Servant. Koenig protests that this means death for humans. Perfection = a single "perfect" state = no change = stopping of time. As a kid of 11 I never understood this concept and this episode, until I paid real close attention. Comments? Once again I don't think the planet seen in Missing Link over the lunar horizon is Zenno. Mateo *********************************************************** Online Alpha - The Space: 1999 Mailing List To unsubscribe: send email to majordomo@buffnet.net and in the body put unsubscribe space1999 *********************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 19 Jan 1998 19:18:19 +0000 From: "Dr. Darrin" <darrin@climax.prestel.co.uk> Subject: Space1999: Happy Birthday Tony Verdeschi I just noticed in today's (19-01-98) Manchester Evening News that today is Tony Anholts 57th birthday! Back to lurk mode *********************************************************** Online Alpha - The Space: 1999 Mailing List To unsubscribe: send email to majordomo@buffnet.net and in the body put unsubscribe space1999 *********************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 19 Jan 1998 21:00:01 +0000 From: judas@netmatters.co.uk (B J Dowling) Subject: Space1999: Videos and stuff Hi folks, I've finally gone and got myself a VCR and TV in my room. I'm almost self sufficient in here now! This immediately has two effects: firstly that I can sit in the comfort of my padded cell and watch Space:1999 episodes to contribute to the discussions, and secondly that the video capture thing I've been thinking about setting up is a distinct possibility. I know I'm a bit late with Missing Link - sorry, it won't happen again - I'll put that in one post with Guardian Of Piri. I've been getting through The Key To Time (A whole season of Doctor Who with one theme going straight through) this last week. It's left me with a habit of calling any lasses I know Romana and anyone else K9... - --------------------------------------------------------------- Brian Dowling - Birmingham, England Online Alphan #144 judas@netmatters.co.uk briand@trinitypub.co.uk The Space:1999 UK Video Log: http://users.netmatters.co.uk/judas/ - --------------------------------------------------------------- *********************************************************** Online Alpha - The Space: 1999 Mailing List To unsubscribe: send email to majordomo@buffnet.net and in the body put unsubscribe space1999 *********************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 19 Jan 1996 16:50:32 -0600 From: Mark Meskin <plastic.gravity@newrock.com> Subject: Re: Space1999: Happy Birthday Tony Verdeschi That's a sobering post......57? Time flies........ - -Mark - ---------- > From: Dr. Darrin <darrin@climax.prestel.co.uk> > To: space1999@buffnet.net > Subject: Space1999: Happy Birthday Tony Verdeschi > Date: Monday, January 19, 1998 1:18 PM > > I just noticed in today's (19-01-98) Manchester Evening News that > today is Tony Anholts 57th birthday! > > Back to lurk mode > *********************************************************** > Online Alpha - The Space: 1999 Mailing List > To unsubscribe: send email to majordomo@buffnet.net and > in the body put unsubscribe space1999 > *********************************************************** *********************************************************** Online Alpha - The Space: 1999 Mailing List To unsubscribe: send email to majordomo@buffnet.net and in the body put unsubscribe space1999 *********************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 19 Jan 1998 19:26:04 EST From: LKJ1999 <LKJ1999@aol.com> Subject: Space1999: Tony Anholt. Is 57 !!! So Tony Anholt is 57. Boy oh boy. Time does go fast!!! Chas P. LKJ1999 *********************************************************** Online Alpha - The Space: 1999 Mailing List To unsubscribe: send email to majordomo@buffnet.net and in the body put unsubscribe space1999 *********************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 19 Jan 1998 19:34:57 EST From: Trekfan100 <Trekfan100@aol.com> Subject: Re: Space1999: OT: Ryan & Mulgrew Just had to put my 2 cents in also. I think Kate Mulgrew is terrific! I was fortunate enough to hear her speak at a convention a couple years ago. She was intelligent as well as very funny. I could have listened to her talk for hours, and I very much enjoy her performances on Voyager. (although I haven't had time to watch it this entire season.) Colleen MBA#169 *********************************************************** Online Alpha - The Space: 1999 Mailing List To unsubscribe: send email to majordomo@buffnet.net and in the body put unsubscribe space1999 *********************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 19 Jan 1998 20:22:35 EST From: djlerda@juno.com Subject: Re: Space1999: "Guardian of Piri" -- and Other Meanderings On Mon, 19 Jan 1998 12:39:40 -0800 Tamazunchale@webtv.net (South Central) writes: >Once again I don't think the planet seen in Missing Link over the >lunar >horizon is Zenno. > >Mateo Mateo, I have to respectfully disagree. When Koenig first meets Raan he tells him that the Alphans computer reported that all the worlds in the solar system were dead. Raan replies that the computer read that way because he wanted it to . When Koenig looks in the Main Mission screen and when Raan shows him Zenno, the moon is hanging in the sky. Also in the experiment, Victor tells John that not all of the worlds in the system are dead, one is alive. Now, why the Eagle went out of control and crashed is nevef really explained. Did Raan cause the crash? Surely this would be simple for him to do. With his powers he could make Alan and Koenig push the right buttons. But why? It wouldn't make any sense to risk his lab rat being killed in an Eagle crash. Unless he had to have a subject in a state of near-death in order to steal the subject's soul. Raan said he had waited a long time for an Earthman. Just a little grist for speculation. The idea that Piri and Zenno are in the same solar system (Kryton, I believe) intrigues me. Piri has purple-ish hues in it. Perhaps the Pirians were descendents of the Zennites. They developed their machines to handle all of their physical labors to concentrate on their intellectual pursuits and then made the mistake of developing the Guardian to run the machines. The Zennites could have seen the results and decided to also develop their intellect but hold off on building machines to do their labor. Just a little speculative grist. David J Lerda, djlerda@juno.com "Just because we haven't experienced something doesn't mean it doesn't exist" - John Koenig *********************************************************** Online Alpha - The Space: 1999 Mailing List To unsubscribe: send email to majordomo@buffnet.net and in the body put unsubscribe space1999 *********************************************************** ------------------------------ End of space1999-digest V1 #407 *******************************