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Date: Sun, 6 Jun 1999 20:08:01 -0700 (PDT)
From: Anthony DiPietro <atd1999@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Space1999: Clif's Notes/Columbia House Deathmatch
Clif:
Good stuff. I personally like Breakawy better than
Metamorph, but I can't see either is the height of the
series. I hope you plan on doing deathmatch reviews
for each of the Columbia House tapes? Nice refreshing
change of pace for the list.
Personally, I liked both portrayals of Helena and
each definitely fit the season, so I think Barbara
Bain is a really good actress! Sometimes in Year Two,
she had some really stupid (IMO) "emotional" acting
(I'm thinking of some of the silly outbursts in
'Immunity Syndrome'), but on the whole it was good. I
liked Year One for its heavy tone and the way she
played a serious doctor - not a frivoulous bouncy
girl, but a mature woman with weight on her shoulders.
She was, after all, head of Medical and as such was
responsible for the well-being of all Alphans. She had
to manage her staff of doctors, nurses and orderlies
and tend to health issues as they cropped up and help
out Koenig on the latest alien threat...hmmm, not a
lot of time to laugh there! :)
Keep up the good work, Clif.
Anthony
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Date: Sun, 6 Jun 1999 23:17:40 -0400
From: "Clif" <brclif@digital.net>
Subject: Re: Space1999: Space: 1999 Gets Robbed, Again!
I was just wondering... I think they're great.
- --Clif
"Greater justice you shall pursue."
> > >So are you writing those MST3K things, yourself?
> > Er, no...Robert G is my partner in crime there. Pardon me for asking,
but
> > what does that have to do with anything? :)
>
> Thanx Jeff S!
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Date: Sun, 6 Jun 1999 23:23:45 -0400
From: Sci Fi High <evans@tdi.net>
Subject: Re: Space1999: Brian Blessed [OT]
At 07:44 PM 6/6/99 -0500, you wrote:
>Speaking of Brian Blessed, he has a credit in The Phantom Menace. I can't
>say I noticed who it was on screen, and didn't catch the character name in
>the credits, but IMDb lists him as playing King Boss Nass.
He was the leader of the underwater people.
Russell
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Date: Mon, 07 Jun 1999 17:05:23
From: Straker.@taranaki.ac.nz
Subject: Re: Space1999: Space: 1999 Gets Robbed, Again!
Clif:
>Do you get to see Wilma Deering naked in that Friday the 13th?
No...and Erin Gray wasn't nude either :)
Stoat
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Date: Mon, 07 Jun 1999 17:07:48
From: Straker.@taranaki.ac.nz
Subject: Re: Space1999: Space: 1999 Gets Robbed, Again!
Stoat:
>> >> Getting snubbed by a misogynist relic isn't that heart-breaking for
me, to
>> >> be honest.
Clif:
>> >The women get paid to voluntarily do they-know-what, so where are the gyns
>> >being miso'd?
>>
>> I'm no about to get into a debate about this topic...I like naked women as
>> much as the next straight guy, but mags like that continue to portray women
>> as disposable objects. Pardon me, but I find that mildly offensive. On
>> the other hand, your body is your body and if you want to show it off for
>> cash...go ahead. I'm no lover of censorship, believe me. For one thing, I
>> cannot understand why a movie can't have hardcore sex in it AND have a plot
>> too. Why has no-one tried? Unless you count Caligula :)
>
>Hear hear!
It's not sucha stupid idea...well, i don't think so, anyway.
>> >So are you writing those MST3K things, yourself?
>> Er, no...Robert G is my partner in crime there. Pardon me for asking, but
>> what does that have to do with anything? :)
Robert:
>Thanx Jeff S!
Yeah, whatever. Credit where it's due. I'm still confused.
Stoat
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Date: Mon, 07 Jun 1999 17:16:57
From: Straker.@taranaki.ac.nz
Subject: Space1999: What the $%^&*, Clif?!!!!!!!
>Yeah, here in Cape Canaveral, we were able to tell that they all had
>dandruff when we found their Head and Shoulders washed up on the beach.
>
>--Clif
>
>SORRY!
I should bloody well think so, Clif! That's deeply offensive, and so
unfunny it defies description. Howz about a gag about the Columbine
shootings as an encore?
Stoat
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Date: Sun, 6 Jun 1999 23:42:35 -0400 (EDT)
From: moonbubba@webtv.net (moon bubba)
Subject: Space1999: OT: Music Of Cosmos
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There are a few songs in the midi collection that are on the Cosmos
television series (with the late great Professor Carl Sagan) soundtrack.
They are Partita No.3 "Gavotte en Rondeau" (3) by J.S. Bach;The Four
Seasons "Spring" by Antonio Vivaldi;and The Rite Of Spring" by Igor
Stravinsky. The Planets "Mars,bringer of war" by Gustav Holst was on the
episode "Blues For A Red Planet", and of course on 1999's episode "Space
Brain." There are two songs named Jupiter. Perhaps one should be renamed
Pluto since there isnt one. Some will argue Pluto isnt a planet anyway.
The site lists Dmitri Shostakovich,but they dont have any midis.
Symphony No.11 is on the soundtrack. Most of the Cosmos series music was
done by Vangelis. I guess those songs,and a few others on the
soundtrack,arent old enough yet.
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Date: Mon, 07 Jun 1999 17:13:41
From: Straker.@taranaki.ac.nz
Subject: Re: Space1999: Clif's Notes/Columbia House Deathmatch
>> That was actually a chilling effect, to think that the pilots may have
>> survived the initial blast, only to watch the ground rush up? The effects
>> people may not have intended that look, but if not programmed that way, it
>> was evidently considered good enough (or even better) to keep in.
Neil:
>Life imitates art: When the space shuttle Challenger exploded in 1986, the
>crew module was proven to have been intact after the explosion.
>Particularly chilling is the fact that some or all of the crew may have
>survived the initial explosion, but were killed when the module impacted on
>the Atlantic Ocean.
That's believed to be the case, yes...the Weekly World News took a ghoulish
spin on the tragedy by publishing an 'official' transcript of the crew's
last words. It had them spouting a whole lot of melodramatic nonsense, and
ended with them all intoning the Lord's Prayer as the shuttle plunged
earthwards. An offensive, manipulative load of trash. I daresay that the
crew were killed by the shockwave of the explosion...I hope so, because
that way they wouldn't have even felt the end when it came.
JeffStoat
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Date: Sun, 6 Jun 1999 21:38:17 -0600 (CST)
From: TIMOTHY GUEGUEN <ad058@sfn.saskatoon.sk.ca>
Subject: Re: Space1999: 1st viewing of later 2nd season episodes
On Sun, 6 Jun 1999, Nick Abadzis wrote:
> I read somewhere that there's a school of thought suggesting that the two
> years of the show take place in alternate realities: this seems to me quite
> a handy way of getting around the massive change of style between the two
> seasons and suggests that there's still a moon out there containing the Y1
> cast in all-new adventures! (I like that idea and would be quite happy to
> see it pursued it if a 1999 revival of some kind happened. Dramatically, it
> allows for all sorts of new interpretations of both years' versions of
> Moonbase Alpha).
Thats what my interpretation tends to be. There are just too many
contradictions between the two seasons in my view for them to comfortably
go together. Dragon's Domain tends to be one of the major problems for
linking years 1 and 2. Its the only year one ep besides Breakaway to have
a specific date, and this date contradicts the date of The Metamorph. I
also have a problem with the Ultra Probeship mission and the mysterous
Captain Michael Swift mission of Brian the Brain happening in the same
year. ie both were launched in 1996. For that matter I can't see all the
interior, uniform etc. changes PLUS all the events of year one happening
in the time period allowed by the opening date in The Metamorph.
On the other hand the vagueness of the 1999 timeline is kind of nice if
you intend to do any sort of fanfiction. Compare this with Star Trek,
where theres' a bloody commercially produced Encyclopedia giving you all
sorts of specific dates in Earth and Federation history, which by
extension means you can't say have the Klingons do X in 2230 and remain
canon.
>
> As for Maya, I always found her character to be a bit of a dramatic get-out
> clause when the Alphans were in a tight spot: change into a tiger or
> something, scare off the bad monster-aliens and we'll be OK. Having said
> that, I can't find fault with Catherine Schell for taking a lot of hokey
> ideas and dialogue and managing to invest her whole performance with great
> charm.
Her powers were overused a lot. On the other hand year two didn't have
the problem thats always bugged me about many of the Star Trek: The Next
Generation episodes, namely that there would be some seemingly insolvable
problem that would suddenly be dealt with two minutes before the show
ended by some solution they should have discovered 10 minutes earlier.
tim gueguen 101867
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Date: Sun, 06 Jun 1999 21:53:51 -0600
From: "Robert C. Gilbert" <bcpgd@home.com>
Subject: Re: Space1999: Space: 1999 Gets Robbed, Again!
Straker.@taranaki.ac.nz wrote:
> Clif:
> >> >The women get paid to voluntarily do they-know-what, so where are the gyns
> >> >being miso'd?
> >> I'm no about to get into a debate about this topic...I like naked women as
> >> much as the next straight guy, but mags like that continue to portray women
> >> as disposable objects. Pardon me, but I find that mildly offensive. On
> >> the other hand, your body is your body and if you want to show it off for
> >> cash...go ahead. I'm no lover of censorship, believe me. For one thing, I
> >> cannot understand why a movie can't have hardcore sex in it AND have a plot
> >> too. Why has no-one tried? Unless you count Caligula :)
> >Hear hear!
> It's not sucha stupid idea...well, i don't think so, anyway.
Exactly!
> >> >So are you writing those MST3K things, yourself?
> >> Er, no...Robert G is my partner in crime there. Pardon me for asking, but
> >> what does that have to do with anything? :)
> Robert:
> >Thanx Jeff S!
> Yeah, whatever. Credit where it's due. I'm still confused.
Me too!
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Date: Sun, 06 Jun 1999 20:49:18 -0700
From: Edward Seifert <echo1@uswest.net>
Subject: Re: Space1999: Brian Blessed [OT]
He was the voice of Boss Nass of the Gungans
Sci Fi High wrote:
>
> At 07:44 PM 6/6/99 -0500, you wrote:
> >Speaking of Brian Blessed, he has a credit in The Phantom Menace. I can't
> >say I noticed who it was on screen, and didn't catch the character name in
> >the credits, but IMDb lists him as playing King Boss Nass.
>
> He was the leader of the underwater people.
>
> Russell
> Sci Fi High
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Date: Sun, 6 Jun 1999 23:52:36 -0400
From: Clif <brclif@digital.net>
Subject: Re: Space1999: What the $%^&*, Clif?!!!!!!!
You think so? You think that YOU, living in NZ, could understand the depth
of those deaths as much as someone who lives within eyeshot of the launch
pad?
The fact of the matter is that all of Brevard County (where Kennedy Space
Center is located) was telling that joke and others, afterwards. Here's
another one:
What does N.A.S.A. stand for?
"Needs Another Seven Astronauts"
Our whole county was paralyzed. We took shuttle launches for granted. As
the shuttle rockets towards the sky, rumbling all the way, we go on about
our merry way, doing our daily grind. When we saw nothing but a puff of
smoke so high up, we knew what was wrong before Krista McAuliffe's kids did.
McAuliffe's parents, sitting in VIP bleachers, took quite a long time to
figure out what they were seeing. Brevard County was numb. NASA works to
prevent this offensive tragedy, but the endurance of the jokes are a fact of
life. Read 'em and weep.
- --Clif
"Greater justice you shall pursue."
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Subject: Space1999: What the $%^&*, Clif?!!!!!!!
>
> >Yeah, here in Cape Canaveral, we were able to tell that they all had
> >dandruff when we found their Head and Shoulders washed up on the beach.
> >
> >--Clif
> >
> >SORRY!
>
>
> I should bloody well think so, Clif! That's deeply offensive, and so
> unfunny it defies description. Howz about a gag about the Columbine
> shootings as an encore?
> Stoat
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Date: Mon, 7 Jun 1999 00:12:51 -0400
From: Clif <brclif@digital.net>
Subject: Space1999: Shuttle Crew's Last Words
My understanding was that one of the crew's last utterances was "uh-oh".
I'm not sure, but this might have been in TIME magazine. Isn't that the one
that publishes unforgettables on one of its pages inside?
- --Clif
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Date: Sun, 6 Jun 1999 21:22:16 -0700
From: Don Hilliard <don.hilliard@gte.net>
Subject: Re: Space1999: (OT) 'Voyagers' & 'Starlost'
Stoat wrote:
>> Omni (Voyager)
>The what? I love Voyager, but me never hear of dis.
Playbeing apparently got the title wrong - we're not talking Star Trek
calibre here. 'Voyagers' was a short-lived (1 season, I think) US attempt
at a Doctor Who-style series. Dimwitted time-traveller from Earth's future
and an annoying kid he picked up in present-day (1980's) America, bouncing
from one historic event to another and of course becoming responsible for
those events occurring properly. The 'Omni' was the time-travel device,
resembling a large Victorian pocketwatch...just the right size to drop or
have picked from one's pocket and set the week's plot in motion.
Series star Jon-Erik Hexum went on to infamy in his next starring role...by
accidentally killing himself on the set (trying to be funny while waiting
for his next scene, pointed a .44 loaded with blanks at his head and fired).
And then:
>> 7) The Starlost
>Terrible Canadian series starring Keir Dullea from 2001/2010.
If you ever want an extremely frightening look behind the scenes of a TV
series, read the essay 'Somehow, I Don't Think We're In Kansas, Toto' by
'The Starlost' creator Harlan Ellison (pseudonymized in the show's credits).
By the time the series hit the air, the producers had managed to hire and
then drive off 2001's Douglas Trumbull (SFX), science & SF writer Ben Bova
(science advisor), and Ellison himself (who by his own account lost an
estimated $93,000 from the show's failure...and said it was worth it to see
the show go in the tank). Suffice it to say Fred Freiberger winds up
looking like Orson Welles by comparison.
Ad astra per luna,
Don Hilliard
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