From: owner-space1999@buffnet4.buffnet.net (space1999-digest) To: space1999-digest@buffnet4.buffnet.net Subject: space1999-digest V3 #6 Reply-To: Sender: owner-space1999@buffnet4.buffnet.net Errors-To: owner-space1999@buffnet4.buffnet.net Precedence: bulk space1999-digest Monday, June 7 1999 Volume 03 : Number 006 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 7 Jun 1999 04:46:23 -0400 (EDT) From: moonbubba@webtv.net (moon bubba) Subject: Space1999: Challenger portrait - --WebTV-Mail-983711993-14444 Content-Type: Text/Plain; Charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit Visit Moonbubba's Moonbase at http://members.tripod.com/~moonbubba/home.html - --WebTV-Mail-983711993-14444 X-URL-Title: Challenger portrait Content-Disposition: Inline Content-Type: Text/Plain; Charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit http://www1.chron.com/content/interactive/special/challenger/docs/portrait.html - --WebTV-Mail-983711993-14444-- *********************************************************** Online Alpha - The Space: 1999 Mailing List To unsubscribe: send email to majordomo@buffnet.net and in the body put unsubscribe space1999 (or space1999-digest) *********************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 7 Jun 1999 05:48:46 -0400 (EDT) From: moonbubba@webtv.net (moon bubba) Subject: Space1999: The Robert Williams Home Page - Space 1999 - --WebTV-Mail-1262600778-14339 Content-Type: Text/Plain; Charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit How did this site get into the ring? It has the date wrong,and then goes on to make fun of our show,SUCH BLASPHEMY!!!! Visit Moonbubba's Moonbase at http://members.tripod.com/~moonbubba/home.html - --WebTV-Mail-1262600778-14339 X-URL-Title: The Robert Williams Home Page - Space 1999 Content-Disposition: Inline Content-Type: Text/Plain; Charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit http://www.freez.com/rwill2805/S1999.html - --WebTV-Mail-1262600778-14339-- *********************************************************** Online Alpha - The Space: 1999 Mailing List To unsubscribe: send email to majordomo@buffnet.net and in the body put unsubscribe space1999 (or space1999-digest) *********************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 7 Jun 1999 10:11:47 -0400 (EDT) From: moonbubba@webtv.net (moon bubba) Subject: Space1999: Pieces of music - --WebTV-Mail-2074350954-7722 Content-Type: Text/Plain; Charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit We stand corrected I guess "Don't get technical with me,R2" Visit Moonbubba's Moonbase at http://members.tripod.com/~moonbubba/home.html - --WebTV-Mail-2074350954-7722 X-URL-Title: WWWebster Dictionary - Results screen Content-Disposition: Inline Content-Type: Text/Plain; Charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit http://www.m-w.com/cgi-bin/dictionary - --WebTV-Mail-2074350954-7722-- *********************************************************** Online Alpha - The Space: 1999 Mailing List To unsubscribe: send email to majordomo@buffnet.net and in the body put unsubscribe space1999 (or space1999-digest) *********************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 7 Jun 1999 10:32:22 -0400 (EDT) From: moonbubba@webtv.net (moon bubba) Subject: Space1999: OT: Music correction - --WebTV-Mail-298248014-10023 Content-Type: Text/Plain; Charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit For those of you that might be wondering what the heck I'm talking about,I guess I'll have to forward this,I thought it was a post,but it wasnt,but is now...I'll shut up now. (Sorry the link didnt work.) Now some WebTV gibberish... Visit Moonbubba's Moonbase at http://members.tripod.com/~moonbubba/home.html - --WebTV-Mail-298248014-10023 Content-Disposition: Inline Content-Type: Message/RFC822 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit Received: from mailsorter-102-2.iap.bryant.webtv.net (209.240.198.99) by postoffice-223.iap.bryant.webtv.net; Mon, 7 Jun 1999 06:31:10 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: <ilitera@earthlink.net> Received: from hawk.prod.itd.earthlink.net (hawk.prod.itd.earthlink.net [207.217.120.22]) by mailsorter-102-2.iap.bryant.webtv.net (8.8.8/ms.graham.14Aug97) with ESMTP id GAA14367 for <moonbubba@webtv.net>; Mon, 7 Jun 1999 06:31:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from 38.26.216.1 (ip1.eagle3.ny.pub-ip.psi.net [38.26.216.1]) by hawk.prod.itd.earthlink.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id GAA12567 for <moonbubba@webtv.net>; Mon, 7 Jun 1999 06:31:07 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <375BC94F.54E1@earthlink.net> Date: Mon, 07 Jun 1999 09:29:53 -0400 From: Ina Litera <ilitera@earthlink.net> Reply-To: ilitera@earthlink.net X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (Macintosh; U; PPC) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: moon bubba <moonbubba@webtv.net> Subject: Re: Space1999: OT: Music Of Cosmos References: <1156-375B3FAB-6418@postoffice-223.iap.bryant.webtv.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit moon bubba wrote: > > There are a few songs in the midi collection that are on the Cosmos > television series (with the late great Professor Carl Sagan) soundtrack. > They are Partita No.3 "Gavotte en Rondeau" (3) by J.S. Bach;The Four > Seasons "Spring" by Antonio Vivaldi;and The Rite Of Spring" by Igor > Stravinsky. The Planets "Mars,bringer of war" by Gustav Holst was on the > episode "Blues For A Red Planet", and of course on 1999's episode "Space > Brain." There are two songs named Jupiter. Perhaps one should be renamed > Pluto since there isnt one. Some will argue Pluto isnt a planet anyway. > The site lists Dmitri Shostakovich,but they dont have any midis. > Symphony No.11 is on the soundtrack. Most of the Cosmos series music was \ This is a really small thing but it's driving me crazy. None of the above are "Songs" They are pieces of music. A song is music with words. Sorry to be anal. Shosatakovich might not have any midis avaol. because his music is still (I beleive) under copyright protection. Ina - --WebTV-Mail-298248014-10023-- *********************************************************** Online Alpha - The Space: 1999 Mailing List To unsubscribe: send email to majordomo@buffnet.net and in the body put unsubscribe space1999 (or space1999-digest) *********************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 7 Jun 1999 13:43:40 -0400 From: Todd Pence <toddpence@pipeline.com> Subject: Re: Space1999: (OT) 'Voyagers' & 'Starlost' - -----Original Message----- From: Don Hilliard <don.hilliard@gte.net> To: space1999@buffnet.net <space1999@buffnet.net> Date: Monday, June 07, 1999 12:32 AM Subject: Re: Space1999: (OT) 'Voyagers' & 'Starlost' > >Series star Jon-Erik Hexum went on to infamy in his next starring role...by >accidentally killing himself on the set (trying to be funny while waiting >for his next scene, pointed a .44 loaded with blanks at his head and fired). Did he play the man or the little kid? >By the time the series hit the air, the producers had managed to hire and >then drive off 2001's Douglas Trumbull (SFX), science & SF writer Ben Bova That and this thread reminds me that Bova in the mid-seventies wrote a very funny satire about the television industry called "The Star-Crossed" which is about a writer who develops an original, exciting concept for a weekly sci-fi TV series and then watches in horror as the network and the production crews turn it into a god-awful cliche-ridden mess. >(science advisor), and Ellison himself (who by his own account lost an And it's REAL difficult for a television producer to tick off Ellison! He usually gets along so well with them! (note heavy saracasm) Todd M. Pence Fairfax, VA toddpence@pipeline.com *********************************************************** Online Alpha - The Space: 1999 Mailing List To unsubscribe: send email to majordomo@buffnet.net and in the body put unsubscribe space1999 (or space1999-digest) *********************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 7 Jun 1999 19:45:30 -0600 From: Colleen A Bement <space1999nut@juno.com> Subject: Re: Space1999: Brian Blessed [OT] Brian Blessed was definitely Boss Nass....I recognized his voice! He was perfect! Colleen Bement MBA#169 "We're all aliens...'til we get to know one another" John Koenig On Sun, 06 Jun 1999 19:44:26 -0500 David Welle <dwelle@itol.com> writes: >Speaking of Brian Blessed, he has a credit in The Phantom Menace. I >can't >say I noticed who it was on screen, and didn't catch the character >name in >the credits, but IMDb lists him as playing King Boss Nass. > >---- >David Welle >dwelle@itol.com > >*********************************************************** >Online Alpha - The Space: 1999 Mailing List >To unsubscribe: send email to majordomo@buffnet.net and >in the body put unsubscribe space1999 (or space1999-digest) >*********************************************************** ___________________________________________________________________ Get the Internet just the way you want it. Free software, free e-mail, and free Internet access for a month! Try Juno Web: http://dl.www.juno.com/dynoget/tagj. *********************************************************** Online Alpha - The Space: 1999 Mailing List To unsubscribe: send email to majordomo@buffnet.net and in the body put unsubscribe space1999 (or space1999-digest) *********************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 7 Jun 1999 19:50:06 -0600 From: Colleen A Bement <space1999nut@juno.com> Subject: Space1999: Re: Space Shuttle Oh my God.That's terrible! I can't remember what happend to them. Did we just not rescue them in time? I can't imagine running out of O2 Colleen Bement MBA#169 "We're all aliens...'til we get to know one another" John Koenig On Mon, 7 Jun 1999 00:58:00 -0400 (EDT) moonbubba@webtv.net (moon bubba) writes: > >--WebTV-Mail-1007006338-13743 >Content-Type: Text/Plain; Charset=US-ASCII >Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit > >I heard that when the pilot section was found,the emergency oxygen >supply had been turned on,which means they were still alive after the >shuttle hit the water. > >Visit Moonbubba's Moonbase at >http://members.tripod.com/~moonbubba/home.html > > >--WebTV-Mail-1007006338-13743 >Content-Disposition: Inline >Content-Type: Message/RFC822 >Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit > >Received: from mailsorter-102-1.iap.bryant.webtv.net (209.240.198.98) >by > postoffice-223.iap.bryant.webtv.net; Sun, 6 Jun 1999 20:53:20 >-0700 > (PDT) >Return-Path: <owner-space1999@buffnet4.buffnet.net> >Received: from buffnet4.buffnet.net (buffnet4.buffnet.net >[205.246.19.13]) > by mailsorter-102-1.iap.bryant.webtv.net >(8.8.8/ms.graham.14Aug97) > with ESMTP id UAA18241; Sun, 6 Jun 1999 20:53:19 -0700 (PDT) >Received: (from majordom@localhost) by buffnet4.buffnet.net >(8.8.7/8.8.7) > id DAA04994 for space1999-outgoing; Mon, 7 Jun 1999 03:45:49 >-0400 (EDT) > (envelope-from owner-space1999@buffnet4.buffnet.net) >Received: from buffnet1.buffnet.net (mmdf@buffnet1.buffnet.net > [205.246.19.10]) by buffnet4.buffnet.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with >SMTP id > DAA04978 for <space1999>; Mon, 7 Jun 1999 03:45:46 -0400 (EDT) >(envelope-from > root@buffnet1.buffnet.net) >Received: from buffnet5.buffnet.net(205.246.19.14) by >buffnet1.buffnet.net > via smap (V2.0) id xma013180; Sun, 6 Jun 99 23:40:22 -0400 >Received: from webserv2.buffnet.net(205.247.125.2) by >buffnet5.buffnet.net > via smap (V2.0) id xma008334; Sun, 6 Jun 99 23:39:28 -0400 >Received: from tpsun.taranaki.ac.nz (tpsun.taranaki.ac.nz >[203.97.64.132]) > by webserv2.buffnet.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id XAA11302 >for <space1999@buffnet.net>; > Sun, 6 Jun 1999 23:37:22 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from > Straker.@taranaki.ac.nz) >From: Straker.@taranaki.ac.nz >Received: from LOCALNAME (ppp115.tipnet.co.nz [203.97.71.144]) by > tpsun.taranaki.ac.nz (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id PAA15174 for ><space1999@buffnet.net>; > Mon, 7 Jun 1999 15:32:30 +1200 (NZST) >Message-Id: <3.0.5.16.19990607171341.26a761b6@mail.taranaki.ac.nz> >X-Sender: Utpjst@mail.taranaki.ac.nz >X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.5 (16) >Date: Mon, 07 Jun 1999 17:13:41 >To: space1999@buffnet.net >Subject: Re: Space1999: Clif's Notes/Columbia House Deathmatch >In-Reply-To: <003e01beb08f$f13448a0$0200a8c0@srst1.fl.home.com> >References: <3.0.1.16.19990606181644.0a27da62@itol.com> >Mime-Version: 1.0 >Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" >Sender: owner-space1999@buffnet4.buffnet.net >Precedence: bulk >Reply-To: Straker.@taranaki.ac.nz > > >>> That was actually a chilling effect, to think that the pilots may >have >>> survived the initial blast, only to watch the ground rush up? The >effects >>> people may not have intended that look, but if not programmed that >way, it >>> was evidently considered good enough (or even better) to keep in. > >Neil: >>Life imitates art: When the space shuttle Challenger exploded in >1986, the >>crew module was proven to have been intact after the explosion. >>Particularly chilling is the fact that some or all of the crew may >have >>survived the initial explosion, but were killed when the module >impacted on >>the Atlantic Ocean. > >That's believed to be the case, yes...the Weekly World News took a >ghoulish >spin on the tragedy by publishing an 'official' transcript of the >crew's >last words. It had them spouting a whole lot of melodramatic nonsense, >and >ended with them all intoning the Lord's Prayer as the shuttle plunged >earthwards. An offensive, manipulative load of trash. I daresay that >the >crew were killed by the shockwave of the explosion...I hope so, >because >that way they wouldn't have even felt the end when it came. >JeffStoat >*********************************************************** >Online Alpha - The Space: 1999 Mailing List >To unsubscribe: send email to majordomo@buffnet.net and >in the body put unsubscribe space1999 (or space1999-digest) >*********************************************************** > >--WebTV-Mail-1007006338-13743-- >*********************************************************** >Online Alpha - The Space: 1999 Mailing List >To unsubscribe: send email to majordomo@buffnet.net and >in the body put unsubscribe space1999 (or space1999-digest) >*********************************************************** ___________________________________________________________________ Get the Internet just the way you want it. Free software, free e-mail, and free Internet access for a month! Try Juno Web: http://dl.www.juno.com/dynoget/tagj. *********************************************************** Online Alpha - The Space: 1999 Mailing List To unsubscribe: send email to majordomo@buffnet.net and in the body put unsubscribe space1999 (or space1999-digest) *********************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 7 Jun 1999 20:11:40 -0600 (CST) From: TIMOTHY GUEGUEN <ad058@sfn.saskatoon.sk.ca> Subject: Re: Space1999: Re: Space Shuttle On Mon, 7 Jun 1999, Colleen A Bement wrote: > Oh my God.That's terrible! I can't remember what happend to them. Did we > just not rescue them in time? I can't imagine running out of O2 > > > Colleen Bement > MBA#169 > "We're all aliens...'til we get to know one another" > John Koenig > > On Mon, 7 Jun 1999 00:58:00 -0400 (EDT) moonbubba@webtv.net (moon bubba) > writes: > > > >--WebTV-Mail-1007006338-13743 > >Content-Type: Text/Plain; Charset=US-ASCII > >Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit > > > >I heard that when the pilot section was found,the emergency oxygen > >supply had been turned on,which means they were still alive after the > >shuttle hit the water. I'd take all such claims with extreme skepticism, especially those that claim the crew survived impact with the water. Its pretty much impossible to survive a fall of tens of thousands of feet. tim gueguen 101867 *********************************************************** Online Alpha - The Space: 1999 Mailing List To unsubscribe: send email to majordomo@buffnet.net and in the body put unsubscribe space1999 (or space1999-digest) *********************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 06 Jun 1999 15:23:35 -0400 From: actingman-jc@Worldnet.att.net Subject: Space1999: Anholt/typing/etc. I think there are a lot of non sf series actors who will say they had one successful series and then were never heard from again. Watch your various old shows and ask yourself what most of these people have done since. It's the nature of the beast. There may indeed be some prejudice towards the genre, be it film or writing, but I think the overall problem of just getting work as an actor, as well as the whole issue of typecasting, and public association with a previous character. It is a shame Anholt feels the way he does. His feelings about enthusiastic fans makes me think that if he weren't an actor, he would be a blue collar worker sitting at home after a hard days work with a beer in his hand shaking his head at whatever group had his immediate attention...understanding none of it. Also his rudeness when a fan (or worse, a fan who has just given him paid work) wants to talk about the show, and he just brushes them off or hurries right out of there. I myself have done some dreadful local productions just for the money, but when an appreciative audience member comes up to me afterwards, sometimes weeks or months later, you smile and chat and say "thank you." You don't tell the person that you thought the thing was lousy...how is the person supposed to feel? (That doesn't mean he shouldn't be honest in interviews...that is a whole different thing.) As far as his resume goes, when was the last time The Protectors played anywhere? We all have to make choices as to what we advertise to casting people, but 25 years later I doubt Space:1999 will lose him any jobs, and the The Protectors won't get him any. My permanent address is actingman@iname.com *********************************************************** Online Alpha - The Space: 1999 Mailing List To unsubscribe: send email to majordomo@buffnet.net and in the body put unsubscribe space1999 (or space1999-digest) *********************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 06 Jun 1999 17:20:03 -0400 From: actingman-jc@Worldnet.att.net Subject: Space1999: Making of 1999 video After watching the Fanderson Documentary, I found myself with two major compalints. The first is that except for one or two mentions in passing, Sylvia Anderson does not exist at all. No one talks about her contribution to the series. One person commented that Gerry encouraged wide ranging ideas. I thought Sylvia was the story end person and Gerry was the production end person. I say I thought because you do not learn one single thing about her work on the series, or that she was even there. It's all right that Gerry might not want to talk about it, but none of the actors, or writers, or tech people they interviewed could talk about her? And I use the word "could" to mean "allowed". The second complaint is that I feel the documentary's slant was that year one was all good and year two was all bad. I am a fan of the series as a whole, and wanted a more balanced picture of each season. Except for Emma Porteous and Derek Wadsworth, there are no year two only people interviewed. I would have liked to hear more about the producing of year two, especially about the double up episodes, and less complaints about Freddie. Barbara Bain said Main Mission was a magnificent set, but it caused many production problems, which I suspect might have been part of the thinking of year two set changes where they went in knowing the clock was against them. Before 1999, David Gerrold commented at a Star Trek Convention that he sat on a discussion panel with Freddie, and that Gerrold was impressed with Freddie's knowledge of the mechanics of production. (The complaints are fine, but I would like to hear some of the positives as well...and there were positives, as our ExE discussion showed.) The narrator at the end even says something to the effect that the second year lost all of the good elements from the first year. That's some nice objective reporting for a documentary...certainly puts Edward R. Murrow to shame. The section on year one was a little more balanced in that you did hear some criticisms discussed about the weaknesses of the episodes (wooden acting, stories that didn't work, etc.) But does everyone think year two was a complete zero? From the amount of discussion during the Exe, I would say no. Landau stating his complaints about some of the things year two Koenig did are fine, but I would have asked him about the comment offered in the Starlog letters column years ago suggesting year one Koenig came across like a petty bureaucrat who went around screaming at his people. I would have asked about the feel of the pace in the filming between the two years, and the differences in the acting. That last question I would have also asked Barbara Bain. I would have asked everyone connected with year two what they liked about it (many did comment that the costumes did need changing.) Freddie comes across as a moustache-twirling villian, and I just don't see that in the finished product (which Johnny Byrne tries to explain away by saying the scripts had enough good in them to withstand Freddie's changes...let's make sure Freddie gets credit for nothing.) I left the documentary thinking that the producers had no interest in talking to as many year two people as they did year one. I now know from recent list discussion that Tony Anholt would not have wanted to be interviewed, but I still wonder if they could have talked to anybody else. Gerry said he gave Freddie the title of producer because Gerry didn't want to be associated with the changes. I have a problem with the word "gave" in that statement because I wonder how much power Gerry had at this point. I would like to know how many other shows have a story editor who can make set changes, costume changes, casting changes, and everything else. If Freddie was mandated to do all this, then he was the producer anyway, and I doubt that he would have had a non title like story editor by the time the series reached air. At the end of the documentary, Gerry says he should have been tougher and drawn the line. Assuming that he had the power to do so, it would have been interesting to see what would have been produced, and I mean with Freddie there just as a story editor...a fight over every script, but some of Freddie's positives coming out in the final product, but Gerry steering it in a different direction. There was a lot of good in the documentary, but as a fan of the show as a whole, I do feel let down. My permanent address is actingman@iname.com *********************************************************** Online Alpha - The Space: 1999 Mailing List To unsubscribe: send email to majordomo@buffnet.net and in the body put unsubscribe space1999 (or space1999-digest) *********************************************************** ------------------------------ End of space1999-digest V3 #6 *****************************