From: owner-space1999@buffnet4.buffnet.net (space1999-digest) To: space1999-digest@buffnet4.buffnet.net Subject: space1999-digest V3 #7 Reply-To: Sender: owner-space1999@buffnet4.buffnet.net Errors-To: owner-space1999@buffnet4.buffnet.net Precedence: bulk space1999-digest Tuesday, June 8 1999 Volume 03 : Number 007 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 7 Jun 1999 22:31:16 -0400 From: Clif <brclif@digital.net> Subject: Re: Space1999: Re: Space Shuttle Still, if any ergonomic chairs and harnesses could help them survive, they had the best. - --Clif > I'd take all such claims with extreme skepticism, especially those that > claim the crew survived impact with the water. Its pretty much impossible > to survive a fall of tens of thousands of feet. > > tim gueguen 101867 > *********************************************************** Online Alpha - The Space: 1999 Mailing List To unsubscribe: send email to majordomo@buffnet.net and in the body put unsubscribe space1999 (or space1999-digest) *********************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 7 Jun 1999 20:07:04 -0600 (CST) From: TIMOTHY GUEGUEN <ad058@sfn.saskatoon.sk.ca> Subject: Re: Space1999: Brian Blessed [OT] On Sun, 6 Jun 1999, Michael Rogers wrote: > > > > > > >Speaking of Brian Blessed, he has a credit in The Phantom Menace. I can't > >say I noticed who it was on screen, and didn't catch the character name in > >the credits, but IMDb lists him as playing King Boss Nass. > > > Yup, Boss Nass is a computer generated character and it was modeled after > Brian Blessed. To say he did the voice would not be complete enough since he > was actually on the set and doing the movements, lines and gestures that > would eventually be transformed into a CGI character. > > In one of the Star Wars magazines there is a picture of Brian Blessed > hanging out with George Lucus between takes. His hair is short now and he > has no facial hair and he looks to be in terrific health. At least he got credited. I wonder how many actors were used in the filming of The Fanboy Menace, and possibly influenced the final look, actions etc. of the CGI characters they represented, who got no credit. tim gueguen 101867 *********************************************************** Online Alpha - The Space: 1999 Mailing List To unsubscribe: send email to majordomo@buffnet.net and in the body put unsubscribe space1999 (or space1999-digest) *********************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 7 Jun 1999 21:50:48 -0400 From: Phil Merkel <captphil@unix.asb.com> Subject: Re: Space1999: (OT) 'Voyagers' & 'Starlost' The essay by Ellison mentioned previously is very good on this subject as is Ben Bovas Starcrossed which I believe is dedicated to Cordwainer Bird Harlan Ellisons Psyudonym (SP??) for a television episode that he loses control over. Cordwainer refers to SF pro and legend Cordwainer Smith and bird of course stands for the middle finger extended int he direction of Irwin Allen and the producers of the Starlost. Check out Voyage to the Bottom of the Sea 1st season episode, The Price of Doom. Bova's book Starcrossed was dedicated to Cordwainer Bird. Its a really good book and should still be in print. Worth a read. Also is Cyberbooks which is similiar to Starcrossed except its about publishing! To steer by post back on topic I'll mention that a Ben Bova review of Space 1999 is available from an old NESFA press book (Link is at the Cybrary) which is called Viewpoints. The book was published by NESFA when Bova was a guest of honor at one of the Boscone SF conventions (Named after the bad guys in the classic book series Lensmen) NESFA still has the book in print if you want to get it. The article/review is from the mid seventies and given Bova's science background is not very kind to 1999. >That and this thread reminds me that Bova in the mid-seventies wrote a very >funny satire about the television industry called "The Star-Crossed" which >is about a writer who develops an original, exciting concept for a weekly >sci-fi TV series and then watches in horror as the network and the >production crews turn it into a god-awful cliche-ridden mess. > >>(science advisor), and Ellison himself (who by his own account lost an > >And it's REAL difficult for a television producer to tick off Ellison! He >usually gets along so well with them! >(note heavy saracasm) >Todd M. Pence >Fairfax, VA Its amazing to me that Harlan Ellison stayed on Babylon 5 as Creative Consultant for the full run of the show. Terrific! He walked off of the 1985 version of the Twilight Zone after his script, The Nackles was pulled by network censors. *********************************************************** Online Alpha - The Space: 1999 Mailing List To unsubscribe: send email to majordomo@buffnet.net and in the body put unsubscribe space1999 (or space1999-digest) *********************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 7 Jun 1999 22:29:12 -0400 From: Clif <brclif@digital.net> Subject: Re: Space1999: Re: Space Shuttle Here's something even MORE terrible... even if that were still conscious and using the oxygen, the darkness of the ocean's depths would have enveloped them as they sank into the ocean, knowing that soon the water pressure would crush the helmets on their space suits (IF they were still intact) and eventually their bodies. Remember, too, these suits are designed to keep pressure in, not out. - --Clif "Greater justice you shall pursue." - ----- Original Message ----- From: Colleen A Bement <space1999nut@juno.com> To: <moonbubba@webtv.net> Cc: <Straker.@taranaki.ac.nz>; <space1999@buffnet4.buffnet.net> Sent: Monday, June 07, 1999 9:50 PM Subject: Space1999: Re: Space Shuttle > Oh my God.That's terrible! I can't remember what happend to them. Did we > just not rescue them in time? I can't imagine running out of O2 > > > Colleen Bement > MBA#169 > "We're all aliens...'til we get to know one another" > John Koenig > > On Mon, 7 Jun 1999 00:58:00 -0400 (EDT) moonbubba@webtv.net (moon bubba) > writes: > > > >--WebTV-Mail-1007006338-13743 > >Content-Type: Text/Plain; Charset=US-ASCII > >Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit > > > >I heard that when the pilot section was found,the emergency oxygen > >supply had been turned on,which means they were still alive after the > >shuttle hit the water. > > > >Visit Moonbubba's Moonbase at > >http://members.tripod.com/~moonbubba/home.html > > > > > >--WebTV-Mail-1007006338-13743 > >Content-Disposition: Inline > >Content-Type: Message/RFC822 > >Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit > > > >Received: from mailsorter-102-1.iap.bryant.webtv.net (209.240.198.98) > >by > > postoffice-223.iap.bryant.webtv.net; Sun, 6 Jun 1999 20:53:20 > >-0700 > > (PDT) > >Return-Path: <owner-space1999@buffnet4.buffnet.net> > >Received: from buffnet4.buffnet.net (buffnet4.buffnet.net > >[205.246.19.13]) > > by mailsorter-102-1.iap.bryant.webtv.net > >(8.8.8/ms.graham.14Aug97) > > with ESMTP id UAA18241; Sun, 6 Jun 1999 20:53:19 -0700 (PDT) > >Received: (from majordom@localhost) by buffnet4.buffnet.net > >(8.8.7/8.8.7) > > id DAA04994 for space1999-outgoing; Mon, 7 Jun 1999 03:45:49 > >-0400 (EDT) > > (envelope-from owner-space1999@buffnet4.buffnet.net) > >Received: from buffnet1.buffnet.net (mmdf@buffnet1.buffnet.net > > [205.246.19.10]) by buffnet4.buffnet.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with > >SMTP id > > DAA04978 for <space1999>; Mon, 7 Jun 1999 03:45:46 -0400 (EDT) > >(envelope-from > > root@buffnet1.buffnet.net) > >Received: from buffnet5.buffnet.net(205.246.19.14) by > >buffnet1.buffnet.net > > via smap (V2.0) id xma013180; Sun, 6 Jun 99 23:40:22 -0400 > >Received: from webserv2.buffnet.net(205.247.125.2) by > >buffnet5.buffnet.net > > via smap (V2.0) id xma008334; Sun, 6 Jun 99 23:39:28 -0400 > >Received: from tpsun.taranaki.ac.nz (tpsun.taranaki.ac.nz > >[203.97.64.132]) > > by webserv2.buffnet.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id XAA11302 > >for <space1999@buffnet.net>; > > Sun, 6 Jun 1999 23:37:22 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from > > Straker.@taranaki.ac.nz) > >From: Straker.@taranaki.ac.nz > >Received: from LOCALNAME (ppp115.tipnet.co.nz [203.97.71.144]) by > > tpsun.taranaki.ac.nz (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id PAA15174 for > ><space1999@buffnet.net>; > > Mon, 7 Jun 1999 15:32:30 +1200 (NZST) > >Message-Id: <3.0.5.16.19990607171341.26a761b6@mail.taranaki.ac.nz> > >X-Sender: Utpjst@mail.taranaki.ac.nz > >X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.5 (16) > >Date: Mon, 07 Jun 1999 17:13:41 > >To: space1999@buffnet.net > >Subject: Re: Space1999: Clif's Notes/Columbia House Deathmatch > >In-Reply-To: <003e01beb08f$f13448a0$0200a8c0@srst1.fl.home.com> > >References: <3.0.1.16.19990606181644.0a27da62@itol.com> > >Mime-Version: 1.0 > >Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > >Sender: owner-space1999@buffnet4.buffnet.net > >Precedence: bulk > >Reply-To: Straker.@taranaki.ac.nz > > > > > >>> That was actually a chilling effect, to think that the pilots may > >have > >>> survived the initial blast, only to watch the ground rush up? The > >effects > >>> people may not have intended that look, but if not programmed that > >way, it > >>> was evidently considered good enough (or even better) to keep in. > > > >Neil: > >>Life imitates art: When the space shuttle Challenger exploded in > >1986, the > >>crew module was proven to have been intact after the explosion. > >>Particularly chilling is the fact that some or all of the crew may > >have > >>survived the initial explosion, but were killed when the module > >impacted on > >>the Atlantic Ocean. > > > >That's believed to be the case, yes...the Weekly World News took a > >ghoulish > >spin on the tragedy by publishing an 'official' transcript of the > >crew's > >last words. It had them spouting a whole lot of melodramatic nonsense, > >and > >ended with them all intoning the Lord's Prayer as the shuttle plunged > >earthwards. An offensive, manipulative load of trash. I daresay that > >the > >crew were killed by the shockwave of the explosion...I hope so, > >because > >that way they wouldn't have even felt the end when it came. > >JeffStoat > >*********************************************************** > >Online Alpha - The Space: 1999 Mailing List > >To unsubscribe: send email to majordomo@buffnet.net and > >in the body put unsubscribe space1999 (or space1999-digest) > >*********************************************************** > > > >--WebTV-Mail-1007006338-13743-- > >*********************************************************** > >Online Alpha - The Space: 1999 Mailing List > >To unsubscribe: send email to majordomo@buffnet.net and > >in the body put unsubscribe space1999 (or space1999-digest) > >*********************************************************** > > ___________________________________________________________________ > Get the Internet just the way you want it. > Free software, free e-mail, and free Internet access for a month! > Try Juno Web: http://dl.www.juno.com/dynoget/tagj. > *********************************************************** > Online Alpha - The Space: 1999 Mailing List > To unsubscribe: send email to majordomo@buffnet.net and > in the body put unsubscribe space1999 (or space1999-digest) > *********************************************************** > *********************************************************** Online Alpha - The Space: 1999 Mailing List To unsubscribe: send email to majordomo@buffnet.net and in the body put unsubscribe space1999 (or space1999-digest) *********************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 7 Jun 1999 23:07:35 -0400 From: Clif <brclif@digital.net> Subject: Space1999: Great Star Wars Quote Ahmed Best (Jar Jar Binks): "People think that Yoda is a god. In reality, he is a puppet with a man's hand up his ass." - --Clif "Greater justice you shall pursue." *********************************************************** Online Alpha - The Space: 1999 Mailing List To unsubscribe: send email to majordomo@buffnet.net and in the body put unsubscribe space1999 (or space1999-digest) *********************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 8 Jun 1999 00:01:04 -0400 From: Clif <brclif@digital.net> Subject: Space1999: MP3.com - maya This is a multi-part message in MIME format. - ------=_NextPart_000_0005_01BEB142.00384C40 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Looked interesting... Also, Brian Eno fans, I'm gonna check out "neo eon one" which comes up as a match when searching for him on mp3.com http://www.mp3.com/artists/27/maya.html - ------=_NextPart_000_0005_01BEB142.00384C40 Content-Type: application/octet-stream; name="MP3.com - maya.url" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="MP3.com - maya.url" [DEFAULT] BASEURL=http://www.mp3.com/artists/27/maya.html [InternetShortcut] URL=http://www.mp3.com/artists/27/maya.html Modified=C0E1255463B1BE01ED - ------=_NextPart_000_0005_01BEB142.00384C40-- *********************************************************** Online Alpha - The Space: 1999 Mailing List To unsubscribe: send email to majordomo@buffnet.net and in the body put unsubscribe space1999 (or space1999-digest) *********************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 7 Jun 1999 23:03:30 -0500 From: Mark Meskin <plastic.gravity@newrock.net> Subject: Re: Space1999: Great Star Wars Quote Its interesting to note that Jar-Jar Binks will NOT be in the second movie. At least according to the "rumor" mill. He was not asked to reprise his role. Which makes me believe he is free to say what he wants. Darn funny, too! - -Mark - ---------- > From: Clif <brclif@digital.net> > To: Space: 1999 Mailing List <space1999@buffnet.net> > Subject: Space1999: Great Star Wars Quote > Date: Monday, June 07, 1999 10:07 PM > > Ahmed Best (Jar Jar Binks): "People think that Yoda is a god. In reality, > he is a puppet with a man's hand up his ass." > > --Clif > > "Greater justice you shall pursue." > > *********************************************************** > Online Alpha - The Space: 1999 Mailing List > To unsubscribe: send email to majordomo@buffnet.net and > in the body put unsubscribe space1999 (or space1999-digest) > *********************************************************** *********************************************************** Online Alpha - The Space: 1999 Mailing List To unsubscribe: send email to majordomo@buffnet.net and in the body put unsubscribe space1999 (or space1999-digest) *********************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 08 Jun 1999 00:20:15 -0400 From: Ina Litera <ilitera@earthlink.net> Subject: Re: Space1999: Anholt/typing/etc. Hi I sent a note about this while the list was in a mess, so I'll send it again. When I was on the My Fair Lady Tour , Tony Anholt definately listed Space 1999 in his bio. I still have it and will provide it if you want. He was very nice to all of us in the cast and Orch. When the supporting cast and orch were going to walk out over a pay dispute, he stood with us which many actors would never do. I never discusse S99 with him, but then again most of our conversations were in elevators at hotels and consisted of "Good show" and other such titalating conversation. Ina *********************************************************** Online Alpha - The Space: 1999 Mailing List To unsubscribe: send email to majordomo@buffnet.net and in the body put unsubscribe space1999 (or space1999-digest) *********************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 7 Jun 1999 21:21:16 -0700 From: Dennis Gonzales <elusive@best.com> Subject: Re: Space1999: Making of 1999 video From: actingman-jc@worldnet.att.net >After watching the Fanderson Documentary, I found myself with two major >compalints. The first is that except for one or two mentions in passing, >Sylvia Anderson does not exist at all. No one talks about her contribution >to the series. One person commented that Gerry encouraged wide ranging >ideas. I thought Sylvia was the story end person and Gerry was the >production end person. I say I thought because you do not learn one single >thing about her work on the series, or that she was even there. It's all >right that Gerry might not want to talk about it, but none of the actors, >or writers, or tech people they interviewed could talk about her? And I >use the word "could" to mean "allowed". Read "Yes, M'Lady" by Sylvia Anderson, Publisher Smith Gryphon Publishers, First Impression 1991. Address; SMITH GRYPHON LIMITED, Swallow House, 11-21 Northdown St., London N1 9BN Also check out the URL; http://www.tv21.simplenet.com/personnel/sylvia-anderson-interview.html Behind a great man is a greater woman. Without Sylvia and her Love for the business, we wouldn't had great shows that Gerry Anderson had created since the sixties. It's weird to be celebrating the convention without her and there is nothing out there mentioning her from the fan world about her contributions. But then again, why would you want to bring up "Space:1999" during a time when they were going through tough times between two people that had loved each other for so many years. They are still bitter about each other as I understand reading a recent article I have about Gerry NOT talking about his ex-wife. Very interesting interview with Mr. Anderson. It shows a different light about him. The book is very clear about how she had a big role in his life in success and Love. The sixties was a great time to be in the lime light and married but things just didn't work out when they went with live actors and real stories to write. Egos erupt and "Space:1999" died before the first episode even went on the air. Since then, there hasn't been anything beyond the show that can match something as sophisticated as "Space:1999". It was their last gasp for original shows and calibration. It was their time. Dennis Gonzales The Space:1999 Collectible Nostalgic Exhibit URL- http://www.best.com/~elusive/space1999.html P. O. Box 27 Palo Alto CA 94301-9991 1-650-344-9555 *********************************************************** Online Alpha - The Space: 1999 Mailing List To unsubscribe: send email to majordomo@buffnet.net and in the body put unsubscribe space1999 (or space1999-digest) *********************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 7 Jun 1999 23:35:56 -0500 From: Jeff Doyle <jeffd@tranquility.net> Subject: Re: Space1999: Speed [FWD] > > On Sat, 5 Jun 1999, Jeff Doyle wrote: > > It could be that passing through the "Black Sun" moved the Moon near the > > center of our galaxy where stars are packed much more closely together. Of > > course if we are to take THE TAYBOR as canon, then the Moon is not even in > > the Milky Way anymore. Tim Gueguen wrote: > As I understand it the background radiation level near the center of the > galaxy is considerably higher than out here on the rim, making it a rather > hostile place for human life. I remember someone years ago claiming that > life near the galactic center would be like "potroasts on rollerskates." Yes, you are correct about this. But the Moon could still be traveling through a much more star-rich area of a galaxy than good old Sol is in. - -Jeff *********************************************************** Online Alpha - The Space: 1999 Mailing List To unsubscribe: send email to majordomo@buffnet.net and in the body put unsubscribe space1999 (or space1999-digest) *********************************************************** ------------------------------ End of space1999-digest V3 #7 *****************************