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Date: Tue, 08 Jun 1999 06:23:07 PDT
From: martin willey <martinwilley@hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: Space1999: Making of 1999 video
>>From: actingman-jc@worldnet.att.net
>>After watching the Fanderson Documentary, I found myself with two major
>>compalints. The first is that except for one or two mentions in passing,
>>Sylvia Anderson does not exist at all. No one talks about her
>>contribution
>>to the series.
>
>From: Dennis Gonzales <elusive@best.com>
>It's weird to be
>celebrating the convention without her and there is nothing out there
>mentioning her from the fan world about her contributions.
Sylvia Anderson wasn't in the Fanderson documentary because Fanderson have
agreed with Gerry Anderson not to talk to her (although they can and do
mention her contribution in other interviews). This is Gerry's condition,
not Fanderson, so they can't be blamed for it.
Similarly Gerry Anderson wouldn't come to the Breakaway convention if Sylvia
was going and vice versa.
Sylvia's main contributions to Space 1999 were in developing the initial
concept, casting and design. She was not much concerned with story
development (the only script Johnny Byrne remembers her being involved with
was Troubled Spirit). It was also her influence that got Vic Elms, her
son-in-law, a credit as music co-composer, although his only involvement was
RATM.
According to Chris Penfold, generally Sylvia was more involved with the look
and style of the series, while Gerry Anderson was more involved in the
stories.
The Catacombs cast and crew guide has biographies and links for both Gerry
and Sylvia. http://www.geocities.com/Area51/8722/
Martin
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Date: Tue, 8 Jun 1999 09:04:32 -0500
From: "Nimoy Pugh" <npugh@ro.com>
Subject: Re: Space1999: Re: Space Shuttle
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From: moon bubba <moonbubba@webtv.net>
To: Clif <brclif@digital.net>; <space1999@buffnet4.buffnet.net>
Sent: Monday, June 07, 1999 11:32 PM
Subject: Re: Space1999: Re: Space Shuttle
> I remember CNN Headline News reported the emergency oxygen supply had
> been turned on. It took nearly a week I think to locate the pilot
> section. But, I dont think the ocean is deep enough where the command
> section was found to crush anything though. Maybe. If they had survived
> and had their helmets on,looks like they could have gone out one of the
> holes in the spacecraft and reached the surface. I dont think they wear
> their helmets when they lift off do they? I guess there are worse ways
> to go. Running out of oxygen,you'd go to sleep and never wake up. At
The crew cabin hit the water at over 100mph, it may as well hit the ground
at that speed. If anyone was alive all they could do was wait on the impact.
> least I dont think it will ever happen again. NASA has been
> re-organized,and the solid rocket boosters were redesigned. The loss off
Well, they still don't launch in rerally cold weather, the cold is what
caused the O-rings to leak.
> cosmonauts. I think we've lost,what,ten lives? When I was a kid I did a
> book report on Gus Grissom. But at least from these lives that were
> lost,we learned what went wrong,and the corrections were made to insure
> that it never happens again. I hope not anyway.
>
From apollo they learned that 100% oxygen was a bad thing, from challenger
they simply changed things and learned not to fly in those condition again.
They have an escape sysem now, but it's more for engines out and we are
falling "in one piece" or a abort after launch where they can't make Europe.
I don't think anyone publically admitted that anyone was alive after the
explosion (remember the explosions didn't blow the ship apart. It only threw
it sideways and the aerodynamic pressure tore it apart). Hopefully they died
in the G load at least backed out until impact. But anyhow it unknown if the
new escape system would have helped in that situation.
Now back to S1999 stuff :)
> Visit Moonbubba's Moonbase at
> http://members.tripod.com/~moonbubba/home.html
>
>
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Date: Tue, 08 Jun 1999 10:36:34 -0400
From: Zarf Vreex <zarf@interlog.com>
Subject: Space1999: Space Dock
On Sun, 6 Jun 1999, David Welle wrote:
> >When the moon left orbit, I wondered why the space dock exploded. Did the
> >sudden change in gravity rip it apart?
>
> Anyone good with physics? Would would be the delta-G on a station on (say)
> a two hundred kilometer orbit of the Moon, if the Moon itself started
> moving under a... was it 3-G? acceleration, and at some angle relative to
> the station? (Sorry, don't remember if the moving Moon was shown as a
> backdrop.)
Perhaps the station was supposed to be at one of the Lagrange points where
the gravity between the Earth and Moon are equal. Disrupt that
relationship and the space dock would leave its "moorings."
What would happen as the moon moved away from Earth is the Lagrange point
would move outward (the station not following). With the change in
gravitational forces (the Earth's gravity being relatively stronger) the
station would start a slow spiral inwards until it eventually impacts the
Earth's surface.
Famous Quotes that were better left unsaid....
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"Houston, I have to urinate."
Alan Shepperd, 1963
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"What would this country be without this great land of ours?"
Ronald Regan, 1984
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"640k should be more that enough for anybody."
Bill Gates, 1985
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"God is dead."
Friedrich Nietzsche, 1880
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"Nietzsche is dead."
God, 1900
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"The pen is mightier than the sword."
Benjamin Franklin, 1776
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"That depends on where you stick the pen and how hard."
Lance Lawrence, 1986
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"I don't swim in your toilet, so don't pee in my pool!"
Zarf Vreex, 2364
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On the sixth day, God created the platypus. And God said
"let's see the evolutionists try and figure this one out".
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Date: Tue, 08 Jun 1999 09:54:27 -0500
From: William Norman Grigg <WNG@jbs.org>
Subject: Re: Space1999: Re: Space Shuttle
Nimoy Pugh wrote:
> > least I dont think it will ever happen again. NASA has been
> > re-organized,and the solid rocket boosters were redesigned. The loss off
>
> Well, they still don't launch in rerally cold weather, the cold is what
> caused the O-rings to leak.
My recollection of the specifics of this tragedy may be faulty, but I seem to
recall that it was not the O-rings as such that failed, but rather the
*adhesive* that lost its integrity. The late Dixy Lee Ray, former Governor of
Washington who had an extensive science background (she used to be an official
at the Nuclear Regulatory Commission), pointed out (as I recall) that the
adhesive had used a formula from which asbestos had been removed.
The morning of the Challenger disaster, my roommate at the time, whose father
had worked at Morton Thiokol on the solid fuel boosters and was retiring *that
very day*, was watching the lift-off live while I was shaving in the next room.
"My God, it blew up!" he exclaimed, prompting me to rush into the room with my
face half-covered in shaving cream. "What `blew up'?" I tentatively inquired,
fearing the worst. "The shuttle," he replied. We gaped at the screen, which
displayed, strangely enough, the empty launch pad. This prompted the eeriest
sensation I have ever experienced.
I cannot bear to watch the replay of the audience's reaction to the explosion,
as Miss McAulliffe's (sp?) parents are gazing skyward, unaware at first of what
has happened, then slowly realizing that something terrible had taken place --
and then fully understanding that their worst fears had materialized. This
terrible footage should have been locked away, but it's still used on occasion
when some documentary director wants to exploit it for dramatic effect. I think
that people who do such things should be b*tch-slapped, quite frankly.
Will
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Date: Tue, 08 Jun 1999 10:25:02 -0400
From: "Jenny Lobb" <LOBBJ@gunet.georgetown.edu>
Subject: Space1999: Missing Digests
Does anyone know if they plan to recreate the rest of the missing digests on the listserv website? Currently, it skips from vol. 1/54 (dated April 8, 1997) to vol. 3/4 (dated June 7, 1999). Georgetown was unable to deliver some listserv emails for about a week and I was hoping to go back and read the missing emails.
Jenny Lobb
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Date: Tue, 8 Jun 1999 16:27:26 -0000
From: Paulo Jorge Morgado <paulo.morgado@rtc.pt>
Subject: Space1999: OT : LEXX
Has anyone here been watching LEXX? It's one of the strangest Sci fi things
I've ever seen! I gather at least you Canadians have a chance to check it
out in Chum City...
Browse the site on http://www.nmt.edu/%7Ealtailji/guide/ or
http://www.lexx.com/
Giggarotta (burp) lives!!! (Bon Appétit!)
Paulo Morgado
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Date: Tue, 08 Jun 1999 10:00:21 PDT
From: martin willey <martinwilley@hotmail.com>
Subject: Space1999: Sale agreed- DVDs coming soon
Apologies if this has already reached the list- I just get the digests!
From Fanderson's news page, http://www.kikgraphics.demon.co.uk/news.html
After months of protracted negotiations, Carlton Communications Plc has
purchased the prestigious ITC television and film library from Seagram for
$150 million (£90 million) and will take control of the property from July
1st.
With a relaunch of the ITC catalogue planned for the Autumn, many of the
classic ITC series are expected to start appearing on Carlton's various
terrestrial digital televison channels broadcast by ONDigital before the end
of the year. As Carlton are also one of the UK's foremost DVD manufacturers,
many of the ITC series, including the top Gerry Anderson series, are all set
to receive their premiere release on DVD within the next twelve months, with
entirely remastered prints from the original 35mm negatives. This will come
as good news to fans who have been campaigning to PolyGram over the last
year for the DVD release of episodes of Space:1999 and UFO without success.
Fanderson has been invited to assist Carlton in the preparation of these
releases, advising on episode orders and compiling supplementary material
for each disc. Gerry Anderson has accepted an invitation to act as a
consultant on all matters relating to his ten ITC television series,
including video and DVD releases, promotions for television sales, and
development of the properties as new television series and films.
See http://www.kikgraphics.demon.co.uk/news.html for the full story.
Martin
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Date: Tue, 08 Jun 1999 13:01:04 -0500
From: Donald Hayunga <miramar@escape.ca>
Subject: Space1999: Re: Challenger Explosion
Hello;
I recently watched a documentery on A&E(I think) on the dangers of
space travel. It was explained that the O-Ring seal in the jiont that
failed became brital and reduced in size due to the cold. This allowed
the venting of hot gass iut through the joint. The result was that one
of the mounting supports that hold the solid rocket to the external gas
tank was destroyed. This caused the booster to move and strike the
external gas tank which in turn exploded destroying the shuttle. While I
do agree that atmospheric pressure did contribute to the shuttle being
riped apart, I'd still have to say the explossion of a near full gas
tank helped do the most damage. As for the fact that they were alive or
not..I say for all intents and purposes that they were dead at the time
of the explosion and leave it at that. I do wish the footage was seen
less and not used incorrectly. The loss of the Challenger is a perfect
example of the government(managers at nasa) screwing up again by
ignoring the scientists and engineers who built the shuttle. When will
they learn to listen to what being said and not do things just to save
face.
Donald Hayunga
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Date: Tue, 08 Jun 1999 19:31:04 +0100
From: Nick Abadzis <nick@nabad.demon.co.uk>
Subject: Space1999: Re: (OT): Space Shuttle
re: shuttle
>From apollo they learned that 100% oxygen was a bad thing, from challenger
>they simply changed things and learned not to fly in those condition again.
>They have an escape sysem now, but it's more for engines out and we are
>falling "in one piece" or a abort after launch where they can't make
Europe.
>
For anyone interested, there's a fictional account of a shuttle abort early
on in Stephen Baxter's novel "Titan". I don't know how closely it's based on
actual present NASA procedure, but given the quality of Baxter's work, I'd
guess he's researched it very thoroughly. He also extrapolates a near
future, and NASA's place in it (with reference to the Challenger tragedy)
which makes for very frightening, compulsive reading.
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Date: Tue, 8 Jun 1999 14:51:51 -0400
From: "Clif" <brclif@digital.net>
Subject: Re: Space1999: Sale agreed- DVDs coming soon
Woohoo! That's great news, long overdue. Does Carlton broadcast TV shows
in America?
- --Clif
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Date: Tue, 8 Jun 1999 14:54:09 -0400
From: Clif <brclif@digital.net>
Subject: Re: Space1999: Re: (OT): Space Shuttle
I was made to understand that they haven't had the ejection seats/escape
hatches ever since they enlarged the number of crew members...
- --Clif
> >They have an escape sysem now, but it's more for engines out and we are
> >falling "in one piece" or a abort after launch where they can't make
> Europe.
> >
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Date: Tue, 8 Jun 1999 20:04:35 +0100
From: "Brian Dowling" <techlab5@space1999.com>
Subject: Re: Space1999: Sale agreed- DVDs coming soon
Good evening,
Martin wrote:
> With a relaunch of the ITC catalogue planned for the Autumn, many of the
> classic ITC series are expected to start appearing on Carlton's various
> terrestrial digital televison channels broadcast by ONDigital before the end
> of the year. As Carlton are also one of the UK's foremost DVD manufacturers,
> many of the ITC series, including the top Gerry Anderson series, are all set
> to receive their premiere release on DVD within the next twelve months, with
> entirely remastered prints from the original 35mm negatives. This will come
> as good news to fans who have been campaigning to PolyGram over the last
> year for the DVD release of episodes of Space:1999 and UFO without success.
Aha! So our efforts *have* been noticed. And there were those
who mocked and did not believe...
> Fanderson has been invited to assist Carlton in the preparation of these
> releases, advising on episode orders and compiling supplementary material
> for each disc. Gerry Anderson has accepted an invitation to act as a
> consultant on all matters relating to his ten ITC television series,
> including video and DVD releases, promotions for television sales, and
> development of the properties as new television series and films.
Nice to see Gerry involved in the project; that is right and proper for
all the series. I hope that the supplementary material matches the
standard set bythe DVD of Quatermass and The Pit; the audio
commentary provided by Nigel Kneale and Roy Ward Baker is a
delight to listen to. Whoever gets involved with the supplementary
material project has got a hell of a job to match the Q&TP standard.
I do hope that the artwork for the DVDs is of a better quality than
was seen on the ITC videotapes. The only tv series I have seen on
DVD over here is South Park - I'm not aware of any "home made"
series available on DVD yet, so this would be a major first for Gerry
Anderson and for Carlton and it would be nice to see products which
stand out on the shelves and say "BUY ME!!!".
No inverse images, error-ridden blurb or anything which looks like
something someone put together during the break in Sunset Beach
using a shareware version of Paint Shop Pro and a few screengrabs
nicked off a website. The Blake's 7 videos have set a fine example
there; the display of B7 videos in the local MVC store was a sight to
behold.
This could be a major opportunity for these classic series to get the
treatment they really deserve. I'm not just talking about Space:1999
either. I hope Carlton have something planned for Space:1999 to
coincide with the September 1999 anniversary. Unlikely I know, but
one lives in hope. It would shock the BBC into doing something
decent with Doctor Who and might make them regret their shabby
handling of Space:1999.
OK, optimism over - time for a reality check. Carlton are a big media
group with their corporate fingers in lots of pies. I would expect
their bottom line to be making money, primarily from the new digital
television market here in the UK. Don't be surprised to find that if
the first of the DVD releases doesn't fare as well as expected, the
rest might not follow - at the moment there is no track record for
sales of a TV series on DVD in the UK.
Don't take my word for it though - Simon Morris had plenty to say
about Carlton.
I would love to see Space:1999 (and Captain Scarlet, UFO, Sapphire
& Steel...) DVDs on the shelves of HMV and Virgin, packaged in a
way which captures the minds of all those who can remember the
series and gets them to buy. If everyone who can recognise an
Eagle spacecraft bought the set, Carlton would have no complaints!
The news is hopeful, but I will believe it when I see it.
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