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Date: Wed, 9 Jun 1999 05:56:03 -0400 (EDT)
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Subject: Space1999: Re: Hello, Gerry Anderson
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I didnt think that was him...thanks!
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Dear MB -
I happened to look in and saw your message and attachment about GA.
It's not our S1999 Gerry, but a BBC Northern Ireland broadcaster.
He
had an ill-fated stint on BBC's blue chip talk programme, Radio
Four,
at a time when the schedules were being made more `popular', and
was literally hounded off the airwaves.
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Date: Wed, 9 Jun 1999 07:37:10 -0700
From: Terry Lee <TerryL@asymetrix.com>
Subject: RE: Space1999: Gerry Anderson
No, that is not a picture of the Gerry Anderson we are thinking of. By
reading the contests of the letter, it looks like this Gerry Anderson is a
poet.
Terry
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Subject: Re: Space1999: Gerry Anderson
Yep,that's the Gerry Anderson I seen. But you didnt answer my question.
Is this the same creator of Space:1999 in the black and white photo?
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Date: Wed, 9 Jun 1999 07:39:32 -0700 (PDT)
From: Anthony DiPietro <atd1999@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Space1999: Alpha Child/Dorzak
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all the orders in this show and
> that's when I realized
> that Com Koenig was nowhere to be found and not even
> referred to. Was
> Laundau/Koening absent in other shows as well?
>
> Mike
Yes, there were a few "double-up" episodes in Year
Two where some main characters were no where to be
seen. They were filming two episodes at once, so they
split the cast. Sometimes Koenig (or Tony or whoever)
would be seen briefly at the beginning/middle/end ,
but were basically absent from the entire episode.
Anthony
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Date: Wed, 09 Jun 1999 16:06:32 +0100
From: Nick Abadzis <nick@nabad.demon.co.uk>
Subject: Space1999: Re: (OT): Titan/Space Shuttle
- ----------
>From: William Norman Grigg <WNG@jbs.org>
>I've read that novel, and I was fascinated by it, particularly the
technical
>details of how a manned gravity-assist mission to Saturn could be mounted
using
>technology cannibalized from U.S. space programs from Mercury to the
Shuttle.
Yes, me too. He goes into technical detail without ever getting boring. I'm
gonna read "Voyage" next, his alternate-history version of a manned Mars
landing in 1986.
>His politics and sociology struck me as more than a little facile
(Christian
>conservatives are Iranian Mullahs-in-waiting who want to tyrannize decent
folks
>and abolish post-Newtonian science, don'cha know, and they will eventually
>destroy the earth with a little help from throwback Maoist Chinese),
Heh! I know what you mean. There's a bit of "suspension of disbelief"
necessary as he sketches in all the political manoueverings; and it's all
pretty bleak and "extreme-worst-case-scenario" without ever suggesting that
there might be a bit of opposition to McLachlan and the like. (Minor gripe:
how come he allows the U.S. pilot who tries to shoot down the shuttle a
moment of "My God, what have I done?" and later, when we see the Chinese
astronaut preparing to launch waht amounts to a hammer-of-God, she doesn't
experience a moment's doubt?) The meat of the novel is his description of
the journey to and landing on Titan, which I found pretty gripping.
Generally, I like the way Baxter handles characters and it's in these
claustrophobic scenes where I thought the whole thing worked best. His loose
way of skating over the political and social backdrop/states-of-nations
works a lot better in his "Xeelee sequence" novels (read any of those?
They're good), perhaps because they're set in the far-flung future (so we
can't recognise the world he's on about and so are less able to nit-pick);
or his short stories. I particularly enjoyed his collection called
"Traces", set on loads of "alternate" earths or other human worlds.
On the whole, he's good at describing what cosmic changes can occur across
huge vistas of time; mixing in that "hard SF" extrapolation of current
knowledge and working it all into a myth-like tapestry and peopling it all
with engaging characters. Maybe "Titan" 's set in too local a future to be
completely convincing. I have to admit, though, generally I find his stuff
compulsive reading.
the novel's ending seemed a bit like junior-league Arthur C. Clarke.
Still, I admit
>that it was a fun read. The action scenes, particularly the Shuttle abort,
were
>well-staged and very intense.
>
>Will
Actually, I haven't quite finished reading the book... I'm at the bit where
Benacerraf and Rosenberg are dragging those sleds across the gumbo in search
of the meteor impact - I think I might already have guessed the general idea
of the ending - I suspect it's gonna turn out a bit 2010-ish... am I right?
(The blurb on the back of my copy of the book actually says that it evokes a
"Clarke-like feeling of cosmic sorrow", or something along those lines...)
:)
Nick
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Date: Wed, 9 Jun 1999 11:16:48 -0400
From: Sci Fi High <evans@tdi.net>
Subject: Re: Space1999: OT: STAR MAIDENS ON VIDEO!
At 12:02 AM 6/9/99 +0200, you wrote:
>
>The series is great!
>German TV standard is PAL (not NTSC!). You need a multi standard videorecorder
>for playback or additional hardware for converting PAL to NTSC.
>
>Ekmar
The conversion/viewing won't be a problem. I was just unsure as to
what Germany's video format was. Will have to look for on-line dealers of
the tapes. Thanks for your help.
Russell
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Date: Wed, 09 Jun 1999 10:41:05 -0500
From: William Norman Grigg <WNG@jbs.org>
Subject: Re: Space1999: Re: (OT): Titan/Space Shuttle
Nick Abadzis wrote:
> ----------
> >From: William Norman Grigg <WNG@jbs.org>
>
> >I've read that novel, and I was fascinated by it, particularly the
> technical
> >details of how a manned gravity-assist mission to Saturn could be mounted
> using
> >technology cannibalized from U.S. space programs from Mercury to the
> Shuttle.
>
> Yes, me too. He goes into technical detail without ever getting boring. I'm
> gonna read "Voyage" next, his alternate-history version of a manned Mars
> landing in 1986.
I wasn't aware of this novel. When I have discretionary reading time (that I
don't use to participate in e-mail lists such as this, of course;-)), I'll have
to look into that one as well.
>
>
> >His politics and sociology struck me as more than a little facile
> (Christian
> >conservatives are Iranian Mullahs-in-waiting who want to tyrannize decent
> folks
> >and abolish post-Newtonian science, don'cha know, and they will eventually
> >destroy the earth with a little help from throwback Maoist Chinese),
>
> Heh! I know what you mean. There's a bit of "suspension of disbelief"
> necessary as he sketches in all the political manoueverings; and it's all
> pretty bleak and "extreme-worst-case-scenario" without ever suggesting that
> there might be a bit of opposition to McLachlan and the like.
Yep. And McLachlan is the Redneck Christian Right-Wing Yahoo from hell straight
from central casting. He's drawn all with the nuance and subtlety of your
typical villain on "Scooby-Doo."
> (Minor gripe:
> how come he allows the U.S. pilot who tries to shoot down the shuttle a
> moment of "My God, what have I done?" and later, when we see the Chinese
> astronaut preparing to launch waht amounts to a hammer-of-God, she doesn't
> experience a moment's doubt?)
Excellent point. I'd missed it completely.
> The meat of the novel is his description of
> the journey to and landing on Titan, which I found pretty gripping.
I did as well.
> Generally, I like the way Baxter handles characters and it's in these
> claustrophobic scenes where I thought the whole thing worked best. His loose
> way of skating over the political and social backdrop/states-of-nations
> works a lot better in his "Xeelee sequence" novels (read any of those?
> They're good),
No -- I'll have to search those out as well.
> [snipped] Maybe "Titan" 's set in too local a future to be
> completely convincing. I have to admit, though, generally I find his stuff
> compulsive reading.
He's certainly very easy to read. I'm reading the first of a triology of
near-future novels called "The Tenth Planet," about which I'll be posting a few
comments shortly.
>
>
> the novel's ending seemed a bit like junior-league Arthur C. Clarke.
> Still, I admit
> >that it was a fun read. The action scenes, particularly the Shuttle abort,
> were
> >well-staged and very intense.
> >
> >Will
>
> Actually, I haven't quite finished reading the book...
Whoops.... Sorry if I spoiled it for you.
> I'm at the bit where
> Benacerraf and Rosenberg are dragging those sleds across the gumbo in search
> of the meteor impact - I think I might already have guessed the general idea
> of the ending - I suspect it's gonna turn out a bit 2010-ish... am I right?
Hmmm..... Baxter's playing the same vibe, but he doesn't handle it as well,
imho.
> (The blurb on the back of my copy of the book actually says that it evokes a
> "Clarke-like feeling of cosmic sorrow", or something along those lines...)
> :)
>
> Nick
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Date: Wed, 9 Jun 1999 09:28:51 -0700
From: Don Hilliard <don.hilliard@gte.net>
Subject: Re: Space1999: Sale agreed- DVDs coming soon
Zen wrote:
>Err... as it happens, the Thunderbirds are ALREADY available on DVD in
>Japan. There are two massive box sets, and they cost around $400 each.
GACK! Although...if that's the entire series, it's about the same as paying
for the Columbia House tapes.
>By the way... does anyone know which idiot is responsible for releasing
>Battlestar Galactica's movie on DVD in MONO fer the love of the Goddess?
Is it the theatrical version or the TV edit? (Quickest way to tell: If
Baltar gets his head removed, it's the theatrical!) The TV version would
have been mono originally; I don't remember if the theatre release was even
done in stereo (but I kind of doubt it; the movie was released in rather a
hurry).
Ad astra per luna,
Don Hilliard
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Date: Wed, 9 Jun 1999 10:27:57 -0700
From: Dennis Gonzales <elusive@best.com>
Subject: Re: Space1999: Gerry Anderson
No. That is not the man unless he is wearing a rug.
Yikes!
From: moonbubba@webtv.net (moon bubba)
>Yep,that's the Gerry Anderson I seen. But you didnt answer my question.
>Is this the same creator of Space:1999 in the black and white photo?
>
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Date: Wed, 9 Jun 1999 14:02:45 -0400
From: Sci Fi High <evans@tdi.net>
Subject: Re: Space1999: Sale agreed- DVDs coming soon
> I don't remember if the theatre release was even
>done in stereo (but I kind of doubt it; the movie was released in rather a
>hurry).
>
>Ad astra per luna,
>Don Hilliard
The movie was released in Sense(sp?)-surround, the sound system
originally conceived for the release of Jennings Lang's Earthquake! But
this still could have been mono.
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Date: Wed, 9 Jun 1999 17:03:54 -0400 (EDT)
From: Mona Delitsky <mona@nimbus.yorku.ca>
Subject: Space1999: .... Star Trek (!)
Hi Alphans,
Did anyone see the Star Trek Marathon on Memorial Day
on the Sci Fi channel ? I don't have this channel, but
someone taped the whole day for me. I just got the tapes
yesterday, and I am appalled at how the Sci Fi channel cut the
episodes. Whole important scenes were left out (in order
to put in more commercials) that render the whole episode
incomprehensible. It's incredibly stupid of them to do this.
The scene in "Mirror, Mirror' where Marlena tells
Kirk about the Tantalus field was deleted, making
the ending confusing. The scene in 'The City on the Edge..'
where Spock talks about 'stone knives and bearskins'
is deleted. (Kirk mentions this in a later scene but
there no previous reference to it).
Did anyone else see this and notice what those cretins
at Sci Fi deleted ? I feel like e-mailing them and saying
'Thanks for nothing !'
- Mona
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Date: Wed, 9 Jun 1999 14:12:12 -0700
From: Terry Lee <TerryL@asymetrix.com>
Subject: RE: Space1999: .... Star Trek (!)
They have been doing that since day one. I never watch that channel anymore.
I feel they are doing us a big disservice.
Terry
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From: Mona Delitsky [mailto:mona@nimbus.yorku.ca]
Sent: Wednesday, June 09, 1999 2:04 PM
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Subject: Space1999: .... Star Trek (!)
Hi Alphans,
Did anyone see the Star Trek Marathon on Memorial Day
on the Sci Fi channel ? I don't have this channel, but
someone taped the whole day for me. I just got the tapes
yesterday, and I am appalled at how the Sci Fi channel cut the
episodes. Whole important scenes were left out (in order
to put in more commercials) that render the whole episode
incomprehensible. It's incredibly stupid of them to do this.
The scene in "Mirror, Mirror' where Marlena tells
Kirk about the Tantalus field was deleted, making
the ending confusing. The scene in 'The City on the Edge..'
where Spock talks about 'stone knives and bearskins'
is deleted. (Kirk mentions this in a later scene but
there no previous reference to it).
Did anyone else see this and notice what those cretins
at Sci Fi deleted ? I feel like e-mailing them and saying
'Thanks for nothing !'
- Mona
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