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space1999-digest         Monday, June 14 1999         Volume 03 : Number 026




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Date: Sun, 13 Jun 1999 23:32:41 +0100
From: Brian Dowling <techlab5@space1999.com>
Subject: Re: Space1999: Johnny Byrne

Hi folks,

Johnny wrote:

> I've been an on off member of the list for many years
> now. Mostly I've only had time to look in and enjoy the discussions.
> Some of the ExE I managed to catch were impressive for their detail
> and knowledge of the show.  And often eerily so for me for the memories 
> they sparked.   As I said in my original note, it's strange to think that I'm
> still thinking about the show in 1999 - almost as strange as yours 
> truly having made it this far.. :)

I haven't written an awful lot, so it's not something I've ever thought 
about but when you write an episode or story (say "Testament Of 
Arkadia" for example), are there any thoughts about the longevity of 
the story - how it might look in 25 years time?  

When Space:1999 was being run for the first time, we know that it 
was the most expensive tv series ever made.  Did it occur to anyone 
involved in the show at the time that it could develop into a "cult" tv 
series?  With a committed fan base some 25 years on?

Put an Eagle transporter in front of most folk over 27 years old and 
they'll most likely recognise it.  Not a theory, but a fact based on 
experience over the last three years of having an Eagle Dinky toy 
atop my monitor.

I'm certain there are going to be some very interesting discussions at 
the Con in September... can't wait!

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Date: Sun, 13 Jun 1999 23:32:41 +0100
From: Brian Dowling <techlab5@space1999.com>
Subject: Re: Space1999: Other shows on SFC

Hi folks,

Don and Jeff wrote:

> >The trouble with running shows like Logan's Run, The Prisoner, Planet Of
> >The Apes, Kolchak: The Night Stalker, Beyond Westworld, The Gemini Man >and
> other shows is that so few were made...not much return for the >investment,
> you see.  It's a great pity, as Apes and Kolchak are both >excellent shows.

> A few years ago, SFC had a regular timeslot called the SciFi Series
> Collection, running short-lived programs like 'Fantastic Journey', 'The
> Immortal', 'Gemini Man', and possibly some of the other series named above
> and below...so it can be done if they feel like trotting it out again.
> (And keep an eye out for the MSTed Gemini Man 'movie'...should be coming
> around again.)

I saw an MST3K of Space Mutiny today, something cobbled together 
from Battlestar Galactica episodes with Cameron Mitchell in.  What 
has happened to poor Uncle Buck from the High Chapparal?  It was 
dire - even Mike, Crow and Servo struggled to make it palatable!

I'll bet they had some fun with Gemini Man... :-)

> >Sliders may be crud, but there are far worse shows that never get
> >seen...Galloping Galaxies, Galactica 1980, Quark, Salvage-1, Space: Above
> >And Beyond, Earth 2 etc :)

Galloping Galaxies was, if I recall, something for kids created by Bob 
Block, creator of major classic children's tv series Rentaghost.  I don't 
think it was ever intended to be shown as even quasi serious science 
fiction.

Rentaghost - now I haven't seen that for years...  Coronation Street 
viewers might not know that Sue Nicholls (Audrey Roberts) was 
series regular Nadia Popov (I think) - a ghost who kept teleporting 
whenever she sneezed...  they don't make shows like that any more

Thinking about it, compare the robot roll call bit in the MST3K opening 
credits to the intro to Teletubbies - the way the names are sung is 
very similar....  it may be me but I couldn't help joining in as Cambot 
et al came up with the names of the Teletubbies...

Perhaps my tablets are wearing off...

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Date: Sun, 13 Jun 1999 23:32:41 +0100
From: Brian Dowling <techlab5@space1999.com>
Subject: Space1999: OT: Blake's 7 telemovie

Hi folks,

Off-topic but perhaps newsworthy...

Brian Lighthill (priducer of 2 year 4 B7 eps and the 2 recent audio 
dramas) has confirmed that he and Paul (Avon) Darrow opwn the 
rights to and are in the process of putting together a new Blake's 7 
tele-movie.

Word is that it will be set some years after the climactic events in the 
final episode "Blake".  Because the BBC do not own any part of this 
production, it is likely that they will not be involved in it at all.

According to a chat transcript from chat.beeb.com, the idea of the 
tele movie was something Terry Nation suggested shortly before his 
death.  Darrow will be co-producing, so there should be a nice meaty 
role for Avon.  (*yes!!!*)

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Date: Mon, 14 Jun 1999 12:59:58
From: Straker.@taranaki.ac.nz
Subject: Space1999: Space: 1999 - The Search 2 FINAL VERSION

>Good stuff!

Thanks. :)  Must finish 5 one o' these days. :)
JeffStoat
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Date: Mon, 14 Jun 1999 16:37:04
From: Straker.@taranaki.ac.nz
Subject: Space1999: OT: Bond stuff

Brian, the man they call Brian:
>There is an Irish lilt to Pierce Brosnan's accent, and DAMN he is good 
>looking.  A wonderful advert for Irish men...  And a better Bond 
>(IMHO) than Connery.  Don't see what the big deal is with him.
>
>Roger Moore is The Saint to me, though Ian Ogilvy ran him a very 
>close second.  The difference between Dalton and the rest is that 
>he's a Shakespearian - and like the Doctors after Tom Baker isn't 
>given as much credit as he deserves.

Dalton was as close to the Fleming Bond as anyone's ever been...and that
may have been his downfall.  He played the role with the utmost
seriousness, to the point where he was positively grim at times.  It was a
valid move to make, considering how much of a spoofy character Moore's Bond
was at times, but I believe that the audiences wanted someone with a bit of
humour and zest.  Brosnan provided that mixture of humour and seriousness,
which never strays into either extreme.  The fact that he's a god
looks-wise, and is just BORN for the role helps too.  Lazenby was different
to all of them...fallible, human, self-deprecating at times, devoid of the
coldness Connery and Dalton displayed.  Connery's so popular because he was
the first, and he was fortunate to have so many excellent films...only
Diamonds Are Forever was anything less than excellent.  You Only Live Twice
was a rather silly, but at least it had a cracking  Roald Dahl script and
the perfect Blofeld.

Davison is an acclaimed Doctor...Colin Baker (my fave Doctor) was the vitim
of BBC politics and, like Sylvester McCoy, wasn't given enough episodes to
make a big impression. 14 a year was just not enough.

>I want to know what's going to happen to Q - scenes with him in are 
>my favourite ones!  Desmond Llewellyn is irreplacable!

Well, the guy ain't dead yet, but who knows if he'll be fit enough for
another Bond flick?  If they can replace M successfully (and it's been done
thusly twice), Q 2 could work too.  Why not the female Q in Joihn gardner's
series, Q'ute?  OK, so the name is stupid, but other than that...:)
JeffStoat

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Date: Sun, 13 Jun 1999 23:13:05 -0400 (EDT)
From: Mona Delitsky <mona@nimbus.yorku.ca>
Subject: Space1999: Cool Fanzines

Yo, Alphans !

COSMOCONNECTION was the first Space:1999 fanzine (published in 
the 1976-79 time frame), and included great Space:1999 art and
stories.   COSMOCONNECTION 1-5 are all available.
If interested, please send check or money order
made out to 'Mona Delitsky'  at the following address:

Mona Delitsky
P.O. Box 1522
La Canada, California  91012

The price per issue is $5 US, plus $2 US (each issue) for shipping.
For Overseas orders, add $3 each for shipping.
(Therefore, the set of 5 would cost $35 US domestic; $45 for overseas.)
(Please remit in US dollars.)

The covers and descriptions of COSMOCONNECTION # 1 - 5 are at:
   http://www.geocities.com/Area51/8722/vmfanfic.html.
Other info:
   http://www.geocities.com/Area51/8722/wrefimona.html

Love that Moonbase !

- - Mona

  mona@nimbus.yorku.ca
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Date: Sun, 13 Jun 1999 22:29:56 -0500
From: Mark Meskin <plastic.gravity@newrock.net>
Subject: Re: Space1999: White Castles, Charlie's Angels, Bond, etc.

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> From: Clif <brclif@digital.net>
> They are small, cheap, greasy, and they NEVER
> > > satisfy your hunger.  They also have a habit of making you sick by
> morning.
> > Funny that you should mention White Castle.
> 
> That's EXACTLY the experience I had with White Castles while on a rare
> outing downtown during my training time at Ft. Benjamin Harrison,
> Indianapolis.
> 


Hehehe!  Methinks they should be called "boomerangs", istead of sliders....

- -Mark
(having a little pizza, while listening to the awesome "Sleeping in Light"
soundtrack)

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Date: Sun, 13 Jun 1999 22:31:54 -0500
From: Mark Meskin <plastic.gravity@newrock.net>
Subject: Re: Space1999: Re: Off-Topic: 1999 (Brian Eno)

Brian Eno is just fabulous, isn't he.  I like how the music is just there,
not screaming at you, like it follows you, but never gets ahead of you.

- -Mark

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> From: Clif <brclif@digital.net>
> To: All Sections Alpha <space1999@buffnet.net>
> Subject: Space1999: Re: Off-Topic: 1999 (Brian Eno)
> Date: Saturday, June 12, 1999 10:35 PM
> 
> The one and only Eno I've ever heard (I've also owned a number of copies
of
> it) is his "Apollo Atmospheres and Soundtracks".  That's a Space: 1999
type
> CD.  I think it is a collector's item, now, I've heard.
> 
> --Clif
> 
> "All you need to say is '1' if you mean 'yes' or '0' if you mean 'no'.
> MattitYaHU 5:37
> 
> ``There are those who are born UNIX; Those who are made UNIX; And those
who
> become UNIX for the kingdom of heaven's sake.'' (MattitYaHU 19:12)
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Bill Adkins <camillus@earthlink.net>
> To: All Sections Alpha <space1999@buffnet.net>
> Cc: <brclif@digital.net>
> Sent: Thursday, June 10, 1999 10:37 PM
> Subject: Off-Topic: 1999 (Brian Eno)
> 
> 
> > >Looked interesting...  Also, Brian Eno fans, I'm gonna check out "neo
eon
> > >one" which comes up as a match when searching for him on mp3.com
> > > http://www.mp3.com/artists/27/maya.html
> >
> > Thanks for posting that. I didn't think there were many Eno fans left.
I
> was
> > hooked
> > from the time my sister played HERE COME THE WARM JETS for me. My
favorite
> > was TAKING TIGER MOUNTAIN.  And to get the semblence of returning to
the
> > lists subject, I always thought his MUSIC FOR FILMS would serve well as
a
> > background for 1999. The opening number always brought to mind THE FULL
> > CIRCLE.
> >
> >
> 
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Date: Mon, 14 Jun 1999 05:41:59 -0400 (EDT)
From: moonbubba@webtv.net (moon bubba)
Subject: Space1999: OT:The Prisoner

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Episodes of The Prisoner should be on again this weekend on Nick At
Nite's TVLand during their Retro Spy Marathon. I've been trying to find
out when exactly, but havent been able to find any listings as yet.
There is some additional information at desiluweb.com/TVLand. I guess
you'll just have to watch to find out,baby!

Visit Moonbubba's Moonbase at
http://members.tripod.com/~moonbubba/home.html


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Date: Mon, 14 Jun 1999 13:07:15 +0100
From: Nick Abadzis <nick@nabad.demon.co.uk>
Subject: Re: Space1999: WebTV and Outlook/Express [ADMIN]

>>Are any of you, other than Nick A., receiving blank emails from WebTV
>users?
>
>This issue has come up on the Star Trek list I administer. WebTV mails
>formatted with anything other than the standard format come through as
>attachements in Outlook Express 4, which seems to interpret them as HTML
>(even though the attachment comes through as plain text).
>
>Outlook Express 5, on the other hand, interprets the mails correctly, and
>even displays them with the appropriate colours. It also some some cool
>things like mark answered mail, so if IE4 users are having problems, I'd
>personally recommend upgrading anyway. I'm on holiday right now with an IE4
>laptop, and I really miss IE5!
>
>I hope this helps...
>
>Emma

Nick:
I use Outlook 4 on the mac, but I don't think IE 5 has been released for us
Apple-users yet. I'll keep an eye out for it, though, thanks.
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Date: Mon, 14 Jun 1999 13:06:44 +0100
From: Nick Abadzis <nick@nabad.demon.co.uk>
Subject: Re: Space1999: Re: (OT): Titan/Space Shuttle

>At 02:02 PM 6/13/99, you wrote:
>>William:
>>>>I've read that novel, and I was fascinated by it, particularly the
>>>technical details of how a manned gravity-assist mission to Saturn could
>>be mounted
>>>using technology cannibalized from U.S. space programs from Mercury to
the
>>>Shuttle.
>>
>>Nick:
>>>Yes, me too. He goes into technical detail without ever getting boring.
I'm
>>>gonna read "Voyage" next, his alternate-history version of a manned Mars
>>>landing in 1986.
>>
>>Oh, prepare for a corker of a book!  I have everything Baxter's
>>written...he's just the best damn male SF author in the world right now,
>>without doubt IMO.  Real 'sense of wonder' stuff, with lots of humanistic
>>touches thrown in too.  It's hard to pick which of his books is the
>>best...Titan and Voyage are both brilliant. Voyage is far less depressing,

Nick:
Excellent! I look forward to reading it. I seem to be slowly working my way
through all his books, and I haven't really got into one SF author for
years, so yeah, I must think he's pretty good, too. :)
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Date: Mon, 14 Jun 1999 13:15:49 +0100
From: Nick Abadzis <nick@nabad.demon.co.uk>
Subject: Re: Space1999: Re: (OT): Titan/Time Ships

Phil:
>I'm thinking about reading the Time Ships over the summer.  I have heard a
>lot of good things about Baxter and read his first novel Raft.  While
>overall the book wasn't terrific (Kind of a "Kitchen Sink" novel where you
>feel the author is trying to get in as much weird wild stuff as possible)
>his universe was cool and I can see myself going through this series when I
>have time to think.
>
>Time Ships though soulds accessable to me and I'll either read it before or
>right after reading the Sequel (Prequel) to Vernor Vinge's FIre Upon the
>Deep.

Nick:
Raft I haven't read (seems to be out of print in the UK), but I did really
enjoy reading the rest of Baxter's "Xeelee Sequence" novels. Definitely read
The Time Ships when you get a chance. It's a really entertaining book with
loads of twists and turns. One of the main characters is called "Nebogipfel"
and I think Baxter deserves praise for daring to name one of his main
protagonists that. :) Seriously, it's a really satisfying read, and a very
worthy sequel to an SF classic.
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